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EPISODE · Jan 9, 2026 · 38 MIN

When Staying Small Wins: Fred Piehl on Profit, Joy, and Running Restaurants That Don’t Own You

from FULL COMP: The Voice of the Restaurant Industry Revolution · host Josh Kopel

What if staying small was actually the boldest move you could make in restaurants?Fred Piehl didn’t come to San Diego chasing an empire; he came with Paris training, a place to sleep, and a 30–seat bistro he found on Craigslist that became The Smoking Goat.In this conversation, we break down why he and his wife Tammy treat restaurants like “leaky buckets,” how he built a life where skiing trips, summers in New Hampshire, and family dinners matter as much as Saturday covers and how he’s resisted the pressure to scale for so many years.For operators who feel owned by their restaurants, this is a blueprint for taking your time, your profitability, and your joy back.To learn more about The Smoking Goat and One Door North, visit thesmokinggoatrestaurant.com._________________________________________________________Free 5-Day Restaurant Marketing Masterclass – This is a live training where you'll learn the exact campaigns Josh has built and tested in real restaurants to attract new guests, increase visit frequency, and generate sales on demand. Save your spot at restaurantbusinessschool.com

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