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EPISODE · Feb 27, 2026 · 36 MIN

When the Waves Wash Away: Redefining Resilience from the Inside Out

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What happens when the company you built to save lives almost breaks you in the process? In this episode, Mo Fong sits down with Jane Chen — New York Times bestselling author of Like a Wave We Break, co-founder of Embrace (whose portable incubator has helped save over a million babies), TED speaker, and Young Global Leader of the World Economic Forum. Jane shares how losing everything she thought defined her forced her onto a healing journey that completely changed her understanding of resilience, identity, and leadership. Together, they explore why high achievers tie their self-worth to productivity, how to listen to the wisdom of your body and emotions, the power of Inner Family Systems (parts work) for self-compassion, and what surfing taught Jane about surrendering control. If you've ever pushed past exhaustion and called it resilience, this conversation will challenge everything you thought you knew.

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What happens when the company you built to save lives almost breaks you in the process? In this episode, Mo Fong sits down with Jane Chen — New York Times bestselling author of Like a Wave We Break, co-founder of Embrace (whose portable incubator has helped save over a million babies), TED speaker, and Young Global Leader of the World Economic Forum. Jane shares how losing everything she thought defined her forced her onto a healing journey that completely changed her understanding of resilience, identity, and leadership. Together, they explore why high achievers tie their self-worth to productivity, how to listen to the wisdom of your body and emotions, the power of Inner Family Systems (parts work) for self-compassion, and what surfing taught Jane about surrendering control. If you've ever pushed past exhaustion and called it resilience, this conversation will challenge everything you thought you knew.

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What happens when the company you built to save lives almost breaks you in the process? In this episode, Mo Fong sits down with Jane Chen — New York Times bestselling author of Like a Wave We Break, co-founder of Embrace (whose portable incubator...

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