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EPISODE · Jul 23, 2026 · 35 MIN

When to Let the Dumpster Fire Burn (and Why AI Is Breaking Hiring)

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Not every problem in your business is yours to fix. Roland Frasier and Ryan Deiss break down how to tell a seasonal slump from a fire you actually started, why the easy and obvious moves matter most when the numbers dip, and how AI written resumes are quietly breaking hiring for small businesses. Plus the internal recruiter role they think every growing company is about to need. 0:00 Welcome back from a 30 day vacation 1:46 Why rest is actually productive work 3:20 When do you let the dumpster fire burn? 4:52 Internal vs external: what you can and cannot fix 6:00 Control what you control: lead flow and double booking 6:51 Do the easy and obvious things well 10:07 Red vs yellow metrics on the scorecard 15:46 Theory of constraints: which fire to fight first 17:47 Why small businesses aren't hiring: the AI resume problem 20:01 How to interview when AI writes every resume 25:20 The pre interview email that filters out a third of applicants 26:53 The rise of the internal recruiter Listen to Business Lunch: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/business-lunch/id1442654104 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0iWSA89TaD263zhXETdSvZ Roland Frasier: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rolandfrasier/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rolandfrasier/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@rolandfrasier Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RolandFrasierPage/ More: https://msha.ke/rolandfrasier/ Ryan Deiss: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ryandeiss/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryandeiss/ X: https://x.com/ryandeiss Scalable: https://www.scalable.co

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