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EPISODE · Aug 13, 2025 · 44 MIN

"Where are the men?" with Caspar Chittenden, Misan Harriman, Fernando Deveras and Kevan Smith

from Higher Love with Megan · host Megan Cooper

In today's episode we're going to do something a little different, by having a core theme that has run through many conversations. This theme is "where are the men?" This is a conversation that was ignited by activist, photographer and film-maker Misan Harriman on his social media last October, which started an ongoing inquiry and exploration behind closed doors with my husband and with other great men who have graced the podcast this year.As a little context, this video by Misan, included at the start of this episode, draws attention to the under-representation of men in a lot of spaces for social change. Certainly those amongst a certain demographic which are in fact the men as Misan puts it, "sit closest to the levers of power". Certainly there are many men notably from black or brown communities or from margnalised identities such as the LGBTQA+ communities advocating for equality and justice and doing incredible work. Yet the question remains of "Where are the men?" especially those of relative comfort, safety and influence. In this episode you'll hear from my husband, Caspar, then from photographer, film-maker and activist Misan Harriman, community-organisers Fernando Deveras and Kevan Smith. I encourage you to listen to each of these individual episodes too:Misan Harriman: "Let's Make Moral Clarity the vibe"Fernando Deveras: "Why Your Liberation is bound with mine"Kevan Smith: "Allyship begins where your comfort zone ends"In this episode:03:58 Misan Harriman's share on "Where are the men?"08:25 In conversation with my husband, Caspar18:27 In conversation with Misan Harriman30:15 In conversation with Fernando Deveras33:46 In conversation with Kevan SmithI'd love to hear what you think and keep this important question going with curiosity and openness.

In today's episode we're going to do something a little different, by having a core theme that has run through many conversations. This theme is "where are the men?" This is a conversation that was ignited by activist, photographer and film-maker Misan Harriman on his social media last October, which started an ongoing inquiry and exploration behind closed doors with my husband and with other great men who have graced the podcast this year.As a little context, this video by Misan, included at the start of this episode, draws attention to the under-representation of men in a lot of spaces for social change. Certainly those amongst a certain demographic which are in fact the men as Misan puts it, "sit closest to the levers of power". Certainly there are many men notably from black or brown communities or from margnalised identities such as the LGBTQA+ communities advocating for equality and justice and doing incredible work. Yet the question remains of "Where are the men?" especially those of relative comfort, safety and influence. In this episode you'll hear from my husband, Caspar, then from photographer, film-maker and activist Misan Harriman, community-organisers Fernando Deveras and Kevan Smith. I encourage you to listen to each of these individual episodes too:Misan Harriman: "Let's Make Moral Clarity the vibe"Fernando Deveras: "Why Your Liberation is bound with mine"Kevan Smith: "Allyship begins where your comfort zone ends"In this episode:03:58 Misan Harriman's share on "Where are the men?"08:25 In conversation with my husband, Caspar18:27 In conversation with Misan Harriman30:15 In conversation with Fernando Deveras33:46 In conversation with Kevan SmithI'd love to hear what you think and keep this important question going with curiosity and openness.

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