Where Bonds Go, Stocks Follow with Sam Watkins

Bond yields are climbing, inflation is proving stickier than expected, and the bond market is sending a very different message to the share market. Sam Watkins (Head of PIMCO Australia & New Zealand) joins us to unpack what rising yields mean for stocks, why AI enthusiasm may be masking broader risks, and how investors can think about fixed income in a world where bonds are once again offering compelling income and portfolio protection. In this episode: 00:00 – What the bond market is telling investors 04:31 – Why bond yields are rising around the world 08:31 – Government debt, deficits and fiscal sustainability 12:00 – Interest rate outlook: Australia and the US 15:50 – Warren Buffett's warning on higher rates 17:55 – AI euphoria vs bond market reality 20:59 – PIMCO's base case for the economy 23:48 – Why bonds are attractive again 33:31 – How investors can access fixed income today Stocks & ETFs mentioned: PIMCO Short-Term Active Yield ETF (ASX: EARN), PIMCO Australian Bond Active ETF (ASX: PAUS), PIMCO Global Bond Active ETF (ASX: PGBF) ——— Want to get involved in the podcast? Record a voice note or send us a message And come and join the conversation in the Equity Mates Facebook Discussion Group. ——— Want more Equity Mates? Across books, podcasts, video and email, however you want to learn about investing – we’ve got you covered. Keep up with the news moving markets with our daily newsletter and podcast (Apple | Spotify) We’re particularly excited to share our latest show: Basis Points Listen to the podcast (Apple | Spotify) Watch on YouTube Read the monthly email ——— Looking for some of our favourite research tools? Download our free Basics of ETF handbook Or our free 4-step stock checklist Find company information on TIKR Research reports from Good Research Track your portfolio with Sharesight ——— This podcast is intended for education and entertainment purposes only. Any advice is general advice and has not taken into account your personal financial circumstances. Before acting on general advice, you should consider if it is relevant to your needs. If unsure, speak to a financial professional. The host of this podcast and their guests may have positions in the companies mentioned. Equity Mates Media is part of the Betashares Group but maintains editorial independence and operates under Australian Financial Services licence 540697. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.