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It's pretty creepy, it really was. I've come to this remote part of Michigan's Upper Peninsula. It seems haunting, but maybe that's because this is where the mystery unfolds. There's more media attention to our missing person for us, right again. This is a quick return of all of the whole dish and whole, but you, I would very neat everything with all of the way.
And no signs of forced entry or chaos. Absolutely not. Something happened to him. I knew that in my heart and I knew that in my gut. He had another side to him.
So immediately, this is a lover's triangle. Not a love triangle, but a love quadrangle. Tell me something you guys. What happened to Chris Reagan? That's the stuff of horror movies.
The Upper Peninsula is kind of its own little world. The Upper Peninsula is also known as the UP. People are Ubers. Ubers are unique people. The Upper Peninsula is separated by the Macanell Bridge from Lower Michigan.
It's an absolute rural forested woodland and kind of terrifying in its isolation. We can get wind chill readings 30 below zero in the winter time. It looks like arctic sometimes and you can kind of feel lost. One town in the Upper Peninsula is the small town of Iron River, which was named because of the local mining. Iron River, Michigan has a population of about 3000 with one stoplight in their town.
My name is Laura Frisnow and I'm the former police chief of Iron River. And also the first female police chief actually to serve in the entire Upper Peninsula. It was a lot of double takes when I first started. It was some of the old timers who were like, what's going on here? The people of Iron River are really good-hearted people accepting.
But I think when someone new comes to the area, they're a little skeptical at first and they take their time to make sure that you're worthy of being included into their little circle. One of those outsiders who came to live in Iron River was 51-year-old Chris Reagan. We had to actually go up and buy him all new clothes, what he called his super clothes, because he had city clothes. Terry O'Donnell was an old flame of Chris Reagan's and the two had recently rekindled the romance. He decided that he was going to move to Iron River so that we could be closer together.
It was a whirlwind. How did I was so in love with him? Chris Hernay used to come down Apple Blossom Trail and walk around the river. We'd sit listening to the water. Just enjoy time together.
So when Chris moved to Iron River, he got a job at a manufacturing company called the Overbear Group. Chris was very meticulous about things. Probably one of our best team leaders that we had. He was actually holding people accountable. Chris was former military and had a reputation as a reliable worker.
So it came as a bit of a surprise when he didn't show up for his job. That was October 14th. I sent a message to Chris. You know, we haven't heard from you. Is everything okay?
Chris had missed two days and one of my team leaders came forward and told me, Laura, just so you know, Chris had applied for another position and he's moved into North Carolina. You know, if he was doing long hours for a pretty demanding company, then maybe he just said enough of that. Yeah, for three days, no call, no show is termination. Remarkably two whole weeks had gone by and no one had heard from Chris. That's when Terry decides to go to the police.
By this time, the two had broken up, but they remained close friends and talked regularly. I saw this vehicle pull up and parked in front of the police department and I saw this woman get out of the vehicle and she was crying and she said that her friend was missing. I was shaking our head tears. What was that interaction like when you first encountered Terry O'Donnell? She was very upset. You know, clearly she knew something wasn't right because she knew him very well.
Chief Frizzo sends Sergeant Cindy Barrett to investigate. First up, Chris Reagan's apartment. Terry O'Donnell's parents are landlords to Chris Reagan. So, Terry had access via key from her parents. It was evident that he was in the process of packing up to move to his new job. There's packing boxes
and unabashed suitcases. And there was papers there for his new job. This was his paperwork to accept the position. It's not even said yet. He's challenging each other. He was going to resign on the 13th.
He has to planter as the last day of work. So, not a guy who's running away. Absolutely not. And no signs of forced entry or chaos. Not at all. In fact, he had a list started, you know, things that he wanted to get ready for his move.
It's that he has everything that he needs to do to move. All of his notes. Now, on the dining table, we're legal pads to do lists like how our company needs shut the power up. It really started to bother me that something was very, very wrong. Now, would the window left open? Should we do it for the left open?
It appeared that he had left the apartment with full intentions of returning. Something happened. I knew that in my heart and I knew that in my gut. And I said, we were going to go out and we're going to check the car. And when we're done with that, I will enter Chris Reagan as a missing person in the national database.
From there, they went to the park and ride where Terry and seeing Chris's car abandoned for days. Christopher's Hyundai Genesis, his vehicle was there. And that was his baby. He took such good care of it. And so it didn't make sense to me that it was at the park and ride.
When Sergeant Barrett went to take a look at the car, she found a couple things in the car, like his knee brace that he should have been wearing. That knee brace? Yep. You normally wear the knee brace? Okay.
And I understand in the car, there was an intriguing post-it note. Yeah, she found like a post-it note that was flipped upside down in the passenger side. We didn't know at first what was written on it and what it would come to mean later. Christopher always wrote things down on post-its and the post-it note had directions on it. And I told her that, where those directions went to that was the last place he was.
This is believed to be the last known video of Chris Reagan. He's got on a surveillance camera at a gas station on the afternoon of October 14th, 2014. Leading up the investigation into Reagan's disappearance is a new inexperienced chief of police, Laura Frizzo. She is a leader in a profession in the Upper Peninsula where there aren't a lot of female leaders. How many people on the force for a full time? She truly cared and she truly wanted to solve this.
As Chief Frizzo investigates Chris Reagan's disappearance, she discovers that he had dated multiple women in his short time in Iron River and some of those relationships overlapped. I dated Chris Reagan back in 2013 from our main till the end of October for about six months. He would always send me a text weekly. He was very suave, very sweet, charismatic, just kind of new how to make you feel good. As far as Terriodontal knew, she thought that she was in an exclusive relationship with Chris and this behavior came as a real shock to her. I asked him why he was doing
that and he said well you're going to be gone to Europe for three weeks. What happens if I get lonely? So sadly to say I broke it off of them. When Chief Frizzo digs deeper into Chris's life, she discovers another woman he'd been dating, a 33 year old co-worker by the name of Kelly Cochrane. Either one of us were all in, it was never going to be because I was married.
She was an employee at Oldenburg. Chris was actually involved in her high ring. Kelly was also new to town and I think they bonded over that, being two city folk in this small town. I would go over to Chris's and usually close and then we were intimate and then usually I would leave. That post-it note found inside Chris's car at this parking ride could have led to any one of his girlfriend's homes. Turns out it was Kelly Cochrane's. Chief Frizzo had told me to go and interview Kelly
Cochrane to see if she had any information as to the whereabouts of Chris Reagan and Mankemo. So I said are you Kelly Cochrane's husband? And he said yes. I said is Kelly home? And he says no Kelly's not home. I don't know where she is. And shortly thereafter this woman comes out. I asked her if she
was Kelly. She said yes I'm Kelly. It's not unusual for her husband or her wife to say no he's not here. That is very common. I was actually surprised she came home. So I says your husband aware of your
relationship with Chris Reagan she says oh yes he's fine with it. Jason Cochrane is standing there just stoically not saying a word just like a statue. No emotion. She says I figured Chris left for North Carolina without saying goodbye to me. So I told her I said we were wondering why the car is at the parking ride. And Kelly Cochrane said in the past tense he loved that car. And Sergeant Bear called
me afterwards and said I found out to be very chilling and odd that she said past tense he loved that car. Because of her tiny department's limited resources Chief Frizzo asked for help from the Michigan state police. They sent two detectives who questioned the Cochrane's the very next day. And I'll tell you guys in advance I see a therapist for my anxiety. I'm listening to Jason Cochrane's interview with the detective. He immediately I mean there's no questions asked even yet and he's like I just
want to let you know that I've been doing too well lately. I actually was institutionalized a little over a month ago so okay you know I seem like I've been bummed up. I do see a therapist for it. Lost a close breath now. It's a impressive exercise. Did you take that's what caused all your issues?
A huge part of it. Yeah. And you're wrong knowing that my parents fault the part. So you were very much aware of what Kelly was doing. I either had to accept it or let it go. So I decided that
I could at least accept it for a little while and see if it's you know what she really was to not be with me then I was going to go. Kelly right? Yes. Katie. Katie. How about life? When Kelly came in
for her interview the one thing I noticed about her right out of the gate was her ability to control her body language. Kelly's um everything you know a little crush basically got pretty close to the last four months. Um you know best friends. Did you have an intimate relationship? Okay. And obviously your
husband knows what to do. You know she was leaning forward. She got eye contact and her voice was calm and collected the whole time. What is the last time you saw Chris? I would say between the 12 and the 15th for the last time I saw him. Where did you see him? Um I think I'm at his part. I think
what's um Jason upset about that. No. Kelly should be looking at Jason. I don't see what you would. Well I'll tell you why because husbands get jealous. I understand. What do you think
what I've heard? I would like to know what happened as well. That's my own willing to be here. I'm a good person. Despite the love triangle between the Cochrane's and Chris Reagan there's still no evidence of any crime being committed but Chief Rizzo still suspects that Reagan's disappearance might be the result of foul play. Frizzo and her small team continue pressing on and they quickly learn that
Kelly also had multiple relationships including a gentleman who also worked at the old number group. Kelly was dating another employee there by the name of Eric Erickson. Eric's supervisor was Chris Reagan. So now police are wondering could Eric have been upset enough to have harmed Chris? How do you feel about taking a polygraph test just to prove that you didn't have anything to do with Chris As Chief Laura Frizzo is investigating the disappearance of Chris Reagan she discovers evidence of not a love triangle but a love quadrangle even though Kelly Cochrane is married to Jason she's having an affair with Chris and another co-worker Eric Erickson. Eric Erickson was hired as military assembler. Eric
was a good employee. He showed up. He was dependable. Eric was a suspect. Could he have done something to Chris because he was angry and jealous and outraged so it was important to eliminate him.
There was a point with the participation of the Michigan State Police detectives where I think they wanted to take more of a lead in the case and then handle it. There was no warning it was just basically like hey Laura said they want to talk to you and the next thing I know they're coming at night pulling up in my driveway telling me get in the car. Thanks for coming. Did you ever have any work? Yeah. Yeah. If you wanted me to go over there a couple of times
I'd move back here and I didn't know anybody and having somebody give me some attention was. I said yeah here take a look at my phone this is our conversations that we've had. When I looked at his conversations with Kelly there was a point in time where he got very irritated with her and it was the week before Chris went missing. There was a time where we went down the lake and we were going to have just a couple beers while her phone was going off right and I'm like you know somebody's really trying to get old you who is it and she said that it's Chris you know. So maybe he was the jealous lover yes and I did think that it could happen. The next step for Erickson a polygraph or a
so-called lie detector test. How would you feel about taking a polygraph test just to prove that you didn't have anything to do with Chris's experience? Yep I go. I scheduled a polygraph for him we went yeah I totally understand. Also the door goes click in Washington the officer and he goes you passed and I was like I did so. And because of the alibi that he had did check out I was able to
put him to the side and focus more on the Cochrane's as suspects. So as you're doing your sort of criminal profiles what made Jason a potential suspect in your mind? Jason really had a motive you know he was the husband who was being cheated on. The story that I had gotten from Kelly was that they were separated however still living under the same roof. What I came to learn about this marriage was that it had been in trouble for a while. Kelly you know was living a life of a single person she was
constantly running around with different men. There were times when she came on about 130 getting somewhere she was at and I didn't really want to know. I say you kind of understand why you're here. All right yeah I think so. If you want to enter somebody that's missing I'm gonna guess I'm probably the jealous husband. As police start going through Jason's text messages they seem to reveal
how Jason really feels about being cheated on. It doesn't seem happy at all. Texting her I cannot take it and you promised me you would stop. Was that a lie also? It wasn't long before Chris was missing.
Jason found himself down by Chris's apartment and telling her don't go to those apartments again you're a married woman. The guy in the cast says I was not the only guy trying to date you. Please don't go back to those apartments you are married. Your husband is sitting on a walking side truck or a white person's apartment. Good much later. Please take my trucker. Which sounds almost like stalking behavior.
Right so I'm thinking okay he's now putting himself in position where he's made contact with Chris Regan. I thought you know maybe he snapped. Things had boiled over and Jason needed to go and get some help. Jason's admission to the mental hospital was two days after Mr. Regan went missing.
Chief Frizzo now has some serious suspicion that Jason Cochran's got something to do with Chris Regan's disappearance. It started to get close to holidays thanksgiving was approaching. And then out of the blue Chief Frizzo gets a phone call that takes her by complete surprise. And when I picked up the phone the voice on the other hand said hi this is Chris Regan and I almost dropped the phone set up. It never happened.
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Winter is coming to the upper peninsula and Chris Reagan is still missing. The investigation into his disappearance looks like it's going cold too but Iron River Police Chief Laura Frizzo remains convinced that Reagan was the victim of foul play. You thought maybe he's been murdered. Yeah I just thought it was something wrong. It seemed like everything was a dead end.
I would stop and and check with Laura and just ask her how things are going and I should say I was thinking about you. Laura was very dedicated to the case. She knew that Chris had sons who wanted closure and she wanted to be able to get that closure for them. I was in the office and I got a phone call and when I picked up the phone the voice on the other hand said hi this is Chris Reagan and I almost dropped the phone said that I will hang out wherever you've been and he said junior this is his son and it was really sad for me to hear his voice and it was even harder for me meeting him in person. Chris Jr. is on his way to Iron River with his brother to clean out their father's apartment.
The first time I went to Iron River to clean out his apartment and stuff like that it was not fun. I didn't know what to do or like where to start. It just was heartbreaking. They were young. They were lost. They didn't know what to do where to go. She knew that Chris was a veteran and that his
military service was something he was really proud of so she wanted to make sure that his son got his dog tags which they recovered from his apartment. I went to hand him to him and he told me I think you should just keep them with you. I carried those dog tags in my pocket every day. This is a complicated case and the Iron River Police Department is small just four people and as a result of that people offered their help. So you think these profile questions are pretty good.
Jim McNeil and Molly Varen worked together as private investigators and you know we got together after being introduced by a high school friend of mine was like a mutual friend. I feel that it's a tight community where everybody seems to know each other and especially if you have a missing person that's concerning to the community. Because of where we're from we just don't have missing people like that. We're not going to do anything when somebody is missing. It was at this point where the prosecutor was ready to sign the search warrant for the Cochrane residence so Molly and Jim show up at my office and I'm like oh well as a matter of fact I said I'm going to be doing a search warrant there tomorrow. On March 16th 2015 Chief Frisso
goes to the Cochrane's house with the long-awaited search warrant accompanied by those two private investigators. The dogs were just going crazy in there like just barking barking barking barking. Okay, I'm going to be there. Don't run, like. We were in the home and Kelly's home is pretty creepy. It really was.
I have Kelly's search warrant. I think Molly and I brought you know a lot of experience there to her to assist her with a search warrant. I've never worked with a PI like that before. That was my first experience. This is a little unorthodox. It is and I was kind of concerned about it when it first
happened because I'm kind of a control freak and I didn't want anyone messing around but it actually worked out to our advantage. Hi, Jay-Pren. How you doing? I'm here. Okay. One of the first things you want to
be very careful of is weapons. Do you have any weapons in the home? I'm not. I don't know. I was in the White House. I got a 2-1 there. She'll be able to reach right in again.
Then you immediately go to these weapons and secure them. Special 2-1 horrific here. And they had all kinds of weapons that were like all over the place. But that's not illegal, you know? Jason had a fetish with knives, swords, things like that.
He had a lot of them that were found and collected during the search warrant. It was the kind of arsenal you see in a movie. He had swords, crossbows. Everywhere you go and at home you can put your hands on something tangible and use it as a weapon. That was a very eerie feeling.
Do you want a jacket or something? Typically you don't allow the residents to stay in the house. They're going to have to leave. You guys are going to turn the computer off. No. Is there
something on there you don't want to. No, no. If you're working on something. Okay. It happened to be one of the coldest mornings of the winter. It was like zero. As soon as you walk into the home,
there's like a punch hole of some sort through the door and the door frame was awry. It was cracked or something. At that point, Laura calls crime lab. He was getting the crime lab here and we're standing there for quite a while waiting for that crime lab. So we're just standing there waiting and I looked up.
And something caught me eye and I looked it again. I kind of stepped to the side and looked it again. The ceiling was white but there was these certain spots up there. So I finally said something to Jim and then Jim looked up and looked at it and immediately was like, ooh. So the private investigators, those spots on the ceiling look suspiciously like painted over blood. It's like a splatter pattern.
And she said, yeah, we've done reminding them to replace the ceiling tiles. That probably was a cast off, honestly. It's already dark by the time the crime lab unit gets there. Tell me something you guys. Okay. Well, what's up in here? We got a positive reaction with the
lumenol on the ceiling here. They bring in lumenol, which is a chemical that detects presence of blood. Right here. There was some saying over and over here. They did get a positive reaction from that area above the doorway where it looked like something happened right under the door and kind of spread as it went back on the ceiling. And they said that they got a positive reaction from that.
I'm thrilled. I'm thrilled. I'm sorry. We had finished the search one at the cross one at the cross one like 10 o'clock at night. So it's late.
Investigators think that they've uncovered a gold mine of evidence against the Cochran's until something shocking happens the next day. I got a phone call from one of the neighbors in the morning and said, I just want to let you know that they totally loaded up their truck in this good town. The Cochran's have disappeared. Tell me something you guys. You've found a couple of areas in the cross one. When investigators get the warrant to search the Cochran's home, they find a litany of
disturbing items, including battle axes, crossbows, daggers and knives, a shotgun, a 22-caliber pistol. But more important than that is what appears to be blood spout. We got a positive reaction with the oomnal. We're telling you that's bled, right? We got confirmed again. It was looking pretty
good that they were going to get some positive results back. At this point in the investigation, Chief Frizzo feels like she's got a lot of evidence on the Cochran's. Until the very next morning, she gets a call from one of the neighbors. And that neighbor calls in the morning and said, I just want to let you know that they totally loaded up their truck in the skip town. So I knew this was happening. What was your reaction? I was worried a little bit just because I was the one
that was kind of the thorn in their side. And so I wanted to be sure they weren't like, you know, look for me or come over and find me. Todd and David Saylor, the neighbors who reported the Cochran's missing, are brought in for questioning. They tell police about another very interesting detail they say they observed around the time of Chris Reagan's disappearance. According to David, the Cochran started renovating their house. But not during the day. You could hear them
in their basement using power tools from multiple nights. And so what went through your mind when you heard that? The worst thing imaginable and I thought, you know, I can't, I can't be, but at the same time with what they're telling me, it makes sense. That's the stuff of horror movies. Yeah. Also seemingly out of a horror movie,
a chilling discovery chiffers a later makes inside the Cochran's basement, a journal written by Jason. And he had titled it where monsters hide. Then he goes on to talking about being a hunter and how the hunter hunts the prey and feels his tingle through their body. And it's kind of eerie. Almost like he was writing about this situation. It's almost like a thinly veiled confession. Yes.
It just again pointed in the direction of definitely this couple had something to do with his disappearance and that finally Jason got a snap. Chiffers a is sure that the lab results from those blood samples taken from the house will prove that Chris was brutally murdered there. But she's in for a bitter disappointment. When they called me and said, you know, we didn't get anything. They weren't good samples or had been treated with chemicals or whatever the case may be. And I remember just being
so upset about that. You know, I was mentally drained a lot. With her main suspects now gone into the wind, the case seems to have hit a dead end. But then there's a break. It turns out that all the night before the Cochran's left town, those private investigators have put a tracking device on the Cochran's truck, which is legal for PIs to do in the state of Michigan. Why
should you put the GPS tracker on? Well, we were hoping that they would go to where the body was. That's one of the most dangerous moments in the whole investigation I feel is deploying the GPS unit because of the risk of danger. What does that danger look like? What does that feel like?
Somebody coming out with a shotgun and shooting us on the spot. Okay, ready? Right next to that spare tire is the back frame of the vehicle. And as I get closer, just suck it right out of my hand and you know, you hear the loud bang. It's an exciting moment.
You know, you can feel your heartbeat through your chest. There's a lot of things that could go wrong at that moment in time. I talked to Jim McNeil and he said we put a GPS device on the truck and I need to tell you that. I immediately did a search warrant for their GPS information so that we knew where the patterns were and what was going on. We monitored the GPS movement all through exiting Upper Peninsula of Michigan, through the state of Wisconsin, the top part of Illinois there in Indiana, and then they ended up nearby within the Hobart area. And sure enough, you know,
we located them. They were back at Kelly's parents' house in Hobart. Chief Frizzo wants to get DNA samples from Kelly and Jason Cochran, but they're no longer in her jurisdiction. So she contacts the Lake County Sheriff's Department in Indiana. When I spoke with her, we made a connection on the phone.
She gave me all the reasons that she believed that this was a criminal case and I believed her. We told Jason that we had a search warrant for his DNA and we needed to transport him to the Hobart Police Department. He did not say a word the entire time. He was just sitting in the back of the car, shaking and sweating and like wringing his hands together. He's sitting in a room waiting to give his DNA swab and then he gets the surprise of a lifetime. Looked up at me and his face just
started to turn red immediately. That was a shock to his system I'm sure. And my whole plan was to try and give him the opportunity to be the victim and to tell me what happened to Chris. In the meantime, actually Kelly is just calling me. She knows something's up. She's calling Jason
his own over and over again. When Kelly Cochran saw Laura Frisot, you could tell that it seemed to be her nemesis. So as I started to leave the room to get to the technicians to take her DNA, she said where's my husband? When I just kind of looked back at her because I kind of fed her a line that, you know, Jason's already told us everything. We already know what happened. What Laura effectively
does is create distrust between the couple and come February of 2016. That distrust is going to implode the Cochran household. The 911 call from Kelly Cochran comes in that could unravel the mystery of what happened to Chris Reagan. Here we have one of the most sensational murders, but very few people have actually heard about this case. Some really heinous and atrocious crimes. So what
made you call the FBI? I found the flyer on Chris Reagan being missing. And on this call, my instincts were just yelling at me that something's not right to the scene. What makes the Casperine pit such an excellent place to hide evidence? The Burberry was actually followed by the diapers just off shore here.
In back of these woods, and even more important, discovered. I'm trying to figure out what's the best way to get somebody to tell you a secret that only they know. I told the boys you'd be willing to be a suspect. It's almost like the two of them were having a chess game. Absolutely.
Yeah. I think she wanted to play the game. You were basically having to convince Kelly that her dead husband was sending a message from beyond the grave. I'm not sure. I'm not sure with you. And the reason this case is so engaging, it's the amount of police video that's available.
It's amazing. The Kelly Cochran case, just the biggest case we've had, maybe ever. With her, it was like, lie, lie, lie, truth. Lie, lie, lie, truth. You got figured out.
The end of 2014, there was a missing man in the Iron River area. He wasn't found. Chris Reagan is missing, and it is a mystery. Police Chief Laura Frisio discovers that Reagan is romantically tied to a married co-worker, Kelly Cochran. She and her husband, Jason, are brought in for questioning. Jason really had motive. He was the husband who was being cheated on. But as soon as he's
in front of police, he falls apart. He's shaking and he's fumbling over his words. Actually, this is institutionalized a month ago before I get, I guess, really flustered in it. So, okay. When Laura and her team search the Cochran tone, they find a litany of weapons from battle axes to shotguns. They find this blood spatter and they find a manuscript written by Jason
called, where monsters hide. The manuscript is this essentially fantasy-driven tale of a overlooked man, and it has various accounts of him and his wife killing people and includes one that almost perfectly mirrors what happened with Chris Reagan. So at this point, investigators think that they have uncovered a goldmine of evidence against the Cochran's. Until something shocking happens the next day, the Cochran's have now disappeared. When Jason and Kelly Cochran fled their home in Michigan's upper peninsula back in March of 2015, private investigators were already tracking their movements using a hidden GPS device. The final destination? Their hometown of Hobart, Indiana.
Kelly and Jason were neighbors. They lived next door to each other, other lives. I was trying to do what I thought was the right thing. You go to school, you go to college, you get married. Kelly wore the pants in the family, so whatever she wanted, Jason did.
I got bored from getting married. It was okay to start, but like all I did was work. She was wanting to help get their business, you know, up and running and make more money. Even though the Cochran's are now out of her jurisdiction, Chief Frisso continues to investigate Chris Reagan's disappearance. She's now focused on a place known as the Caspian Pit. She enlisted
the help of a former police investigator, Michael Nyger. What makes the Caspian Pit such an excellent place to hide evidence? Well, it's deep, and also it's within a couple hundred meters above where the Cochran's lived and be very easy to get to in the dark and drop something. Were you able to dredge up a burn barrel? Was that here? Yes, a burn barrel was actually found by the divers just offshore here.
There was a clothesline attached to this burn barrel with a cement block to it. To wait it down, we found cement blocks in the backyard of Cochran's and the actual clothesline, which was missing. I think the implication was that perhaps Kelly and Jason were burning Chris's body, or parts of it at least. I was wet in my garage and what in the heck's that smell? And I walked across the street here and she came running out of a yard and met me in the middle of the street. I said, what the hell are you burning? She said, I'm burning some brush on her.
I said, look, I lived up here my whole life. I never smelled that like that. The Cochran's had a fire pit and there was a burn barrel that had been there. Once we sifted through that, the fire pit ash, we found a saw blade. We found the components to a pair of jeans, which was quite significant. We felt confident that this was likely their burn barrel.
However, there was nothing in it, obviously. I mean, it was open in the pit and anything that wasn't, it was washed out. Why did you need to get rid of it? So that was my validation anyway, that we were on the right track. But then in February of 2016, back in Hobart, Indiana, there's a truly shocking development that's about to upend the entire case, a 911 call coming from the house where the Cochran's are living. My Kelly 911, I've heard her 70.
My husband's, this is like, well, he's breathing early. I don't know what's wrong, he's growing off his legs. I need an ambulance railway. Kelly calls 911. Kelly calls 911 and says, you know, I need the ambulance here. My husband's barely breathing. You said he's breathing.
They're probably breathing. I'm just calling my instincts. We're just yelling at me that something's not right with the scene. She seemed to kind of conveniently getting her way a lot and she just didn't seem to have the proper reaction to finding her husband, you know, in cardiac arrest. I'm trying to, you know, be as some use as much as I did one of my life. I didn't want to die.
Jason Cochran, unfortunately, was pronounced dead in the emergency room at St. Mary's. After Jason died, Kelly reached out to his friend Walt to let him know that Jason had passed. And Walt was immediately concerned. Kelly's tone was very strange. Everything about it felt
abrupt and staged. And within courage from his wife, Walt called the FBI. So what made you call the FBI? I found the flyer on Chris Regan being missing. And it had two numbers on there, the Iron River Police and the FBI. I figured somebody should know
that Jason's dead. Do you remember what you told the FBI? I told them that I have some friends that lived in the UP. They told me their suspects and one of them died Saturday. The FBI routes the call to the proper jurisdiction and it lands on the desk of Hobart Detective Sergeant Jeremy Ogden.
Jeremy Ogden had a reputation as an amazing investigator. Jeremy was known as a master interviewer. I've never received a call like that before. I knew that I needed to make sure that Jason wasn't being taken to a funeral home rather than going for an autopsy. It's not every day that a detective attends an autopsy. And so what did you learn in that particular one? I learned that Jason
had petitegium hemorrhaging around his eyes within his the whites of his pupils. And what is that point to? Pressure and suffocation. The autopsy results lead Ogden to take a deep dive into Kelly Cochran's background and Chris Regan's disappearance. So he connects with Chief Laura Frouso from Iron River. And then ultimately Laura sent me all of the documents and the videos. Immediately I knew that
this was going to work out well because he was on the same page his thoughts his words. It was like oh my gosh somebody else gets it. He gets it. He's thinking like I do and that's for her. What follows is a cat mouse game between Detective Ogden and Kelly Cochran.
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At this point Jeremy Ogden is now leading the investigation into the Cochrane's. I'm running the case and I'm doing all the things that I think are necessary. Detective Ogden has what will be the first of many interrogations with Kelly Cochrane at the Hobart Police Station following her husband Jason's death. How you doing? How easy things to go through?
Kelly has a lot to say about what happened to Jason but when the conversation turns to Chris Reagan not so much. I said by the time this is done you'll tell me what happened to Chris. Detective Ogden starts talking with Kelly and building a relationship with her. That relationship building involves several conversations that Jeremy recorded undercover including at a local restaurant. I think she wanted to see whether or not I was going to be a worthy adversary and I think she wanted to play the game.
It's almost like the two of them were having a chess game. Absolutely. I'm trying to figure out what's the best way to get somebody to tell you a secret that only they know and I come up with this idea about a fake letter. Detective Ogden calls Jason's friend Walt Amerman and tells him he wants him to be part of this plan to catch Kelly Cochrane. What he wanted Walt to do was become an actor.
They were going to have him call Kelly from a parked car to talk about this letter. It is March 12th 2016 at 438 p.m. he's going to be calling Kelly Cochrane. Do you want to be the call her and tell her that I had a letter that Jason had mailed me? But it's not true there is no letter this is all made up made up for one purpose to see what Kelly Cochrane's reaction would be.
I got a letter like January 4th or 5th or something like that from him. You were basically having to convince Kelly that her dead husband was sending a message from beyond the grave. That he felt or knew that she likely was going to do something to him. The note says if something were to happen to me please send this in a few weeks to the Iron River Police Department. It's like I'm supposed to mail this but I just wanted to tell you.
Please don't. Please don't. She says please don't mail it. I don't know. You have to do what you have to do.
And right then I knew like he got her. Yeah. Hook mine and sinker. And what did that tell you? It told me I did the right thing.
But that wasn't your only chest food. You had another trick up your sleeve. Which was a tree and a carving? Yeah. The trees over there?
Yeah the trees right over there. And I'd watch her several times there. He's actually been following Kelly Cochrane. She doesn't know this and Detective Ogden knows that Kelly goes to this one park all the time and is by a certain tree. She would just come and she would sit on that log and there was a couple times where I thought she was even crying.
So he decides to make a carving on the tree that will really freak her out when she sees it. And what he carves into the tree is Chris is here. I thought maybe she would see it as a sign from the dead or maybe even something supernatural and just generate her to talk to me even more. It's not exactly the way they teach at the police academy. No.
All I saw were her running through the woods and then all of a sudden the truck backed out and she took off. That's the night that she decides to tell me everything. You watched him die. You don't know. You caught Chris in it.
This is huge. For the first time Kelly is admitting Chris was murdered. Chris is like in your health shot. You told me that and then he died quickly. She says that Jason shot Chris.
Her portion is being forced to help clean up. I'm the victim. My husband was abusive. I had no choice. I couldn't I couldn't tell anybody where he'd kill me too.
What happened? I remember her words being he downsides him and it just made my stomach turn. That was the first time she admitted not only had Chris been murdered but that he'd been dismembered. Correct. And she goes on to give a very specific detail that will come into play later.
She claims that Jason forced her to pull the bullet out of Chris's body with a pair of forceps. Why not arrest her? You have to understand. I put her in a position to play the victim. She had to do all of these things under duress and that's how she's going to be able to disclose other information so that we can recover Chris Reagan.
But you don't worry about Peter. Yes. You're going to go with me. Okay. We're going to go.
He says we're going to Michigan. You're going to show us where the body is. Detective Ogden and Kelly drive all night. He is counting on her to help him. But will she?
With her it was like, lie, lie, lie, truth. Lie, truth. Lie, lie, lie, truth. It's the middle of the night. Kelly Cochran is driving with Detective Jeremy Ogden back to the upper peninsula of Michigan to show him where she and her husband Jason buried Chris's remains.
Driving up there with her, it was interesting. I mean, she did what most people do after they tell you their deepest, darkest secret. She slept. They drive all night. They leave at midnight.
They get tired of it at like seven in the morning. It's just miles and miles of trees and rolling hills. You could literally go to a place here where nobody else had ever been. Pretty easy to hide a body. Yeah.
It's weird how beautiful it is and at the same time eerie. So as I'm following them, they go down to this one particular area. We're just like on a flat straight spot in the road and she's like, it's right here. And there are other police officers there to search the area. But they find nothing.
So the question is, did Kelly get the spot wrong or is Kelly lying? Detective Ogden then asked Kelly to show him around her house where the murder happened. I wanted her to explain to me what happened to Chris and how he died. And then we'll go upstairs and we're on the way down. And it all be on film.
She started to take me upstairs. Is this what your room, Kelly? Yes. She told you basically that they had had sex upstairs. Right, there were some kind of sex involved.
You and him ended up up here in this room. Couldn't you tell me? On the 14th of June. Mm-hmm. You know, it's like you can see her mind working.
Whatever story she was going to tell me was going to have to match the physical evidence that we may or may not discover. She takes him back downstairs and says, you know, actually happened out here in the hallway in this back hallway. You were having sex right here. Okay. So she says that once they're done, Chris starts to walk up the stairs into the kitchen and Jason unbeknownst to her shoots him from the basement.
You're telling me that Jason shot him from behind? And that Chris falls back on her and that they both tumble down the stairs. Is he still on top of you when you get to the bottom? Is he, are you actually under him? Yeah.
Okay. With her, I was like, lie, lie, lie, truth. Lie, truth, lie, lie, truth. You got to figure it out. What's Jason saying to you?
Awesome. It's still time. Telling the whole truth, you continue that conversation back in Indiana. Yeah. Hours and hours of conversation.
Yeah. There's over 100 hours. But don't you believe? Again, it's all recorded undercover. What don't I believe?
Um, I'm not sure. I'm not sure with you. His communication with her really picked up speed back in Indiana, because he's now determined. I'll meet her at a park. I've sat down at a restaurant with her.
I only have one goal. It's a brain crystal. Detective Ogden believes that the more they talk, the more likely Kelly is to slip up. And if she slips up, she may just leave them to Chris Regan's body. I understand I'm careful with you.
You're not, um, he's out of the ground. I know. I know. I'm getting my word. It seems like Kelly kind of wanted to be playing with Detective Ogden, the sort of cat and mouse game.
You have to understand that there are things that you've said throughout this that would cause concern, okay? And changes the variations of your story. She continues to maintain throughout all these hundreds of hours that she's the victim. It's always my husband forcing me to do this. You have said that you're the victim when it comes to Chris, that you're putting this bad position, right?
At one point, you put your foot down and say, stop lying. No more of those crap lying to me. I want all the **** out of the night for it with you. What brought that on? Frustration, probably.
Ogden thinks Kelly realizes he is losing his patience and might finally just arrest her. It was all about to come to a head soon after Detective Ogden gets a misspelled tax from Kelly. Ever been to the West Coast? I was driving last night. Sure enough, she skipped town.
Except she didn't head West after all. The police tracked her as she fled south to Kentucky. 33-year-old Kelly Cochran was arrested in Graves County, Kentucky. After a trip to the US Marshals, Cochran was wanted in Michigan. And so when you interview her in Kentucky, in many ways, it was a breakthrough confession.
Yes. James, you're different. Why are you here? I'm here. I interviewed her all day that day, and then I interviewed her for a portion of the day the next day.
Now Kelly drops another bombshell. I cheated. He and I are shocked, Kelly. I forgot to see how much enough. Her news story?
She now claims she knew in advance. The Jason was going to kill Chris Reagan, the night she invited him to their home. It's a part of the plan of it. You allowed it to occur when you didn't have to allow it to occur. And she tells Ogden she knew this, because they had an agreement.
When does that agreement occur? Right. And your agreement from the time you were married was that you had an affair. It's your responsibility to kill off that person. Okay.
Or he would kill you. Bye, first. If either spouse were to cheat during the course of the marriage, the cheating spouse would have to either kill their lover or be killed by this other spouse. You heard that right? And yet that bizarre alleged wedding day pact is just the start of what she reveals.
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Now in jail in Michigan, charged with murder, Kelly Cochran is taken out of herself to go on what cops are calling a field trip. This is just, you know, giving her friends what you're talking about. Kelly had agreed that she would take me to Christmas Remains where she left them. She wanted to do the right thing. I can do the crazy.
She's a cute little girl. You were a star of the curse in the last five years. I'm tired of her. She takes her a little further east than she took us on the first day. What was the biggest piece of ball and D that you, I mean, to our phone that was here?
So then we should find ribs and I think that generally your goal should be the biggest though. As she's talking, she has no guilt at all. So carefree. Like no big deal. This was not exactly a somber day for her.
That's my dinner. Yeah, nice. She had a lot of cigarettes. And then she asked for a cheese pizza for lunch. Hi, cheese pizza.
Just cheese. Leave your pillow. Can you bring pizza? While the searching continues, Chief Frizzo takes her to the house. You say that, you know, he's Jason pulled him into here.
An operator come out. And she's eating a piece of pizza, of course, remember to do it. Then Kelly also is just nonchalantly walking past the kitchen sink and says, oh, there's the forceps. You said something about your time. Yeah?
There you go. You're saying you use all? Yup. It had been sitting there the whole time. And I said, are you saying you use those to try and get the bullet out of Chris's head?
And she said, yeah? Just like that. It was critical evidence matching what Kelly had said in that early interrogation when she first admitted that Chris had been murdered. But back in these woods, an even more important discovery. Chris Regan's skull itself.
I'm going to get emotional. I can't wait one second because it still gets me every time. I just said to myself, I finally found you. I just literally like said that to myself, you know? So that was a very sobering moment.
And the only bright spot on that is they could link Kelly Cochran into his murder and that got things going so that she would go to trial. The Kelly Cochran case, just biggest case we've had locally, maybe ever. Kelly's life was riding on the trial. Despite all that she's admitted in those interrogations, Kelly Cochran, please not guilty. I was definitely afraid that she was going to get off.
You never know how a jury is going to go. Ladies and gentlemen, Kelly and Jason Cochran were running on the level. Case was prosecuted by our county prosecutor, Melissa Powell. We were pretty confident going into trial that we could convict her of being an Adder in a better. Kelly Cochran was a willing participant.
And because of that, she's just as guilty as he is. Michael Shulke was the defense attorney for Kelly Cochran. One evidence that the people have to get delivered is the word of the Cochran. It's your word. Why?
We believe that Jason acted alone because he was not into this open marriage and was jealous and angry that Kelly was involved with another man. Did you see that? The trial would last almost three weeks. She has already admitted that she knew what was going to happen. And though there were some 60 witnesses, the case pretty much boiled down to just one.
Kelly Cochran herself. Kelly testified about the abuse that she claims she suffered in her marriage. There was a lot of times where you and your grandkids pushed me and shut me. You became very angry. There was time to be a tragedy in the house outside of the house.
Girl was a sad tragedy. Kelly Cochran testified for several days. I don't think she helped herself at all. You never told people that he was a use over to this case in about the year. Tell that.
And you never told people that he threatened you, which was a case came about, right? Until I came. When I saw Kelly in person, I couldn't believe Christopher would have had a sexual relationship with her. She looked like the devil. Her eyes were blank.
I don't know if I would have been capable of seeing she can or even during the cut-up. There's nothing that comes out of her mouth that I would ever believe. I think the jury wanted to hear from her and how she was going to explain away hundreds of hours of previous statements. Remember her story changed in all those recorded interrogations from I Know Nothing to Jason forced me to help kill Chris. What does that mean to her?
Two, we had a wedding pact and I was part of the murder. I also like that because every time I had an interview or an interrogation with him, everything I said was wrong. What do you mean by an interview? He would question me until I said what was supposed to be said. What was it like watching Kelly on the stand?
excruciating. So it's your testimony today that you've had no plans to kill Chris about it, correct? I've never wanted him to. And you might be attacked by him when you said it was a client, correct? She swears this testimony is no lie.
Today, you're telling the truth. It's at least 12 or 14 years. With Kelly admitting so many lies, the defense asked the jury. How can they believe one story versus any other? Why is she truthful when she says she used apnea with Jason versus times that she said he got the wrong? What makes her more truthful then?
I think at that point in time she's overwhelmed, she's made so many statements, she's told so many lies, it's time to tell the truth. People disclose the truth in bits and pieces when they're ready and when they're caught. The defendants in this manner were fondant of like, Chris Reagan was bathed in it. And at this time I'm asking you to watch away with like, to find the defendant guilty of all kinds of time. There is reason to help here.
You won't fail to deliver. And if you believe that, you have to request. Kelly had me in the comments before trial. You don't think I can turn, just wonder. I was concerned that there might be one jury that buys her story.
And as those jurors start to deliberate, there is something else. What is it that they haven't heard? The jury deliberated for about three hours, which considering it was a two and a half week long trial wasn't very long at all. The jury comes back in and as they're standing in the jury box, I felt confident because you know a couple of them did. The cover and smile is going to get a look.
Don't number one open murder guilty of first-degree premeditated murder, eating in the bed. Everybody just cried and Chris' family was sitting right behind me and the first lady just turned around and hugged them. Kelly was just straight faced during the reading of the verdict. I didn't notice any changes in her at all. Unfortunately the jury bought the story that the prosecution put forth.
Thirty five-year-old Kelly Cochrane will never again walk free. Guilty of five 12 felony counts. Kelly was convicted on first-degree premeditated murder, which carries mandatory life sentence in Michigan and without the possibility of parole. For me, it's not going to change anything. You know, Chris is gone.
And what she did is just horrible. I hope she rats and hell. Kelly Cochrane is convicted and sentenced, but there's much more in her case than what was presented in court. Dark and twisted allegations that the jurors never heard. These are some really disturbing allegations that were brought forth by the neighbors of the Cochrane's who said they heard these weird construction noises coming from Kelly and Jason's house late at night.
It's a sad accident. It's a community suffocate and saw. One of the role of Blake was back before. He caught through the wood and nails and everything at the same time as it. Kelly and Jason asked me if I want to come over for dinner one night.
I was like, yeah sure. And this was like two days after Chris was missing. It's like my mom and I want you to get. So we were always wondering about what if they were the kind of people and actually they could have got in and bushed them up and had us over for dinner. I think they had come up and it moved to us.
So we could play that. I'm like, oh God, oh God, like no. When I realized that I might have ate the dude, I didn't want to believe it. It changed. It changed me 100%.
It was a theory that they came to a conclusion on their own. That wasn't something that we ever even brought into the case investigation. It's not that I didn't think it could happen, but it wasn't significant at the time. But one thing investigators took very seriously was the allegation that there could be other murder victims out there. Kelly's own brother told Detective Ogden that Kelly said herself that there were more victims.
And the war is coming. She tells you. Police were recording all of Kelly Copper in phone conversations while she was behind bars. And you can hear her own mother asking her, is it true? Are there other murder victims?
Hi, Cap. What's going on, Kelly? What the hell is wrong? I mean, where did all this come from? You didn't see this coming?
I see this coming after it all happened, but I didn't know that you guys killed people before all this. Do you have a conscience? Does this, like, have you always felt this way? I've always been like this. Kelly actually told me that she was born the way she is.
She's never had emotions. She's never had sympathy. There is no evidence that has been brought forth. That would indicate that any stories that were pulled by Kelly of being involved in murders of other people are true. There are no bodies coming out of the woodwork that are tied to Kelly Cochrane.
But what does Kelly Cochrane herself now say about the allegations that she's a serial killer? You had told police that you had killed others in the past. Is there truth to that? And in a case where they uncovered so much darkness and evil, there would be a surprising light at the end of the tunnel for the two lead investigators. Following the guilty verdict, Kelly has sentenced to life in prison for the murder of Chris Reagan.
Eleven months later, Kelly pleads guilty to murdering her husband, Jason Cochrane, in Indiana, and a sentence to an additional 65 years in prison. I believe that the idea behind this evil and her, I mean, it's a purest form of evil that you're going to get. I spoke to Kelly Cochrane from her prison in Michigan where she's serving out her life sentence. You told police that you had killed others in the past. Is there truth to that?
No, I've never killed anybody. Then why would you tell investigators you had and lead them on wild goose chases? I don't know. They said they spoke to neighbors who lived down the street from you who were convinced that they had a barbecue that consisted of human remains. I heard about that. Here's the thing.
Kind of ran a barbecue with anybody. Nobody would ever cook. Nobody would barbecue. I've spoken to investigators Kelly who said that when they talked to you and heard your story that it made them believe in pure evil. What would you say to that?
I believe that's **** I was raised by good people. I've never harmed anyone. And so in your view, what did happen that night when Chris died? I got some siftables in there and cut him off the truck. And you just stood there doing nothing?
What are you talking about? You didn't call the police. You didn't. I was tied up. This is the first time hearing of her ever saying she'd been tied up.
This is a game. She's going to continue this game as long as she can. And she's not done with it yet. There probably is not a punishment on this earth that can match what she did to Christopher. I could go to Christopher with me when I'm around Alfa Blossom Trail.
Feel a warm, enjoy a happy nest because it was a good place for us. For Laura Frizzo, the case had a bittersweet outcome. Although she was able to help bring justice for Chris Reagan's murder, she was fired from her job as police chief after Kelly's arrest. I started to have some issues with my boss at work and those issues kind of got heated. But while Laura may have lost her job, she found romance in an unlikely place.
I felt immediately connected to him just because of the person he was. And so you kind of made the first move? What happened? It's one day texting and I said, do you want to kiss me? I was like, why?
Did I send that? Because there was like dead air because no response for a long time. You know, the answer was yes right? All right. As soon as I read it.
So you asked what the first kiss? Who asked for the whose hand in marriage? I did. How'd that go? Big guy?
Well, she accepted right away. What's the future for both of you? We own a piece of land that Laura picked in the UP right on the lake and one day I'm going to build her dream house there. And of course we wish them the best as they now plan their next chapter together away from their work. That is our program for tonight.
Thanks so much for watching. I'm David York and from all of us here at 2020 and ABC News. Good night.