Where to Next? Episode Six - Pippa Evans and Nick Ashley Cooper

This week’s episode is the final one of three recorded at the Realisation Festival that takes place in, and in the grounds of, St Giles House (pictured). I sat down with Pippa, whose voice will be familiar to anyone who listens to comedy on BBC Radio 4, to discuss her thoughts on the grief that can descend after achieving your ambitions. She also talks about her experiences co-founding the Sunday Assembly - an attempt to celebrate spirituality without religion. After that I spoke to Nick, who became the Earl of Shaftesbury after two desperate family tragedies. He explains how it feels to have your life plan jettisoned by circumstance and the background to the Realisation Festival that has its roots in his long and illustrious ancestry. The episode ends with a story from me about a bug hunt I caught the end of at the festival led by Benedict Pollard, that taught me how the way we attend to the world determines what we think of as reality.This is the sixth episode of my Do Radio Series Where To Next? A new episode is released every Monday. The week after each episode is aired I put it up here on my Substack to create a series archive for those who discover it in the future and want to go back to the start, and for those who want to re-listen to the wisdom of my guests that does seems to bloom on a second and third listening. That has been the case for me, anyway. This episode was first broadcast on DO Radio on October 6th 2025.As always, please share it with anyone you think might find it illuminating. Much love,Dan This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dankieran.substack.com/subscribe