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EPISODE · Jan 30, 2026 · 1H 18M

Where we'll go when the bots take over, with Sublime's Sari Azout

from ACCESS · host Alex Heath

Alex and Ellis talk about the tech industry's new obsession with Clawdbot/Molbot, the scary aspect of AI agents, AI invading group chats, and the new viral essay from Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei. Then they’re joined by Sublime founder Sari Azout to discuss what she learned from the crypto bubble, taste as a differentiator in the age of AI, founder life in Miami, the limits of “second brain” tools, and what it actually means to design for curiosity on the internet. Follow ACCESS on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/accesspodcast/⁠⁠⁠ Follow Alex: ⁠⁠⁠https://sources.news/⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/alexeheath/⁠⁠⁠ Follow Ellis: ⁠⁠⁠https://meaning.company/⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/hamburger⁠⁠⁠ ACCESS is produced in partnership with the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit sources.news/subscribe

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