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Lou plays Lou on Lafayette Street in Louisiana. Lovely. Baton Rouge, I've never been to Louisiana. I went to Louisiana when I was like seven years old.
We did this crazy. I don't know if it was crazy. It felt a little crazy. My sister, Abby, was a newborn.
Say she must have been a baby. Baby, baby, baby, baby, baby. And we decided to, or my parents, my dad wanted to visit his old Air Force buddy, Len Falgu, who lives down in the bayou near New Orleans from here. And we set out in the family station wagon.
Must have been 1973. And we drove from Michigan to Louisiana, stopping along the way to camp. We camp with three kids. Three kids.
Yeah. Newborn, like a six or seven year old me and my five year old sister. And it was a very, very memorable trip. You can remember?
I can remember parts of it. I remember it actually been, I know the Falgu's were really friendly. And the kid that was about my age, he referred to everyone as Sir and ma'am, which my parents were very impressed by. And then I was impressed by.
I was like, whoa. And also there had been a hurricane around that time, maybe a few years before that had swept all of these, this whole neighborhoods away and all that were left were these staircases leading up to these just spaces, blank space. So that really took me aback as a young child. And also I found a lizard.
I found a lizard. I was super excited about the lizard action. I bet. And we went to visit Baton Rouge.
Why am I even fucking trying to say it that way? We went to Baton Rouge to visit the state capital where a politician from Louisiana named Huey P Long had been assassinated or shot at or something. And you could still see the bullet holes. So I remember seeing the bullet holes at the Capitol when somebody tried, either took the guy out or tried to take him out.
He was a very controversial, almost dictator like figure in Louisiana history. There's a lot of things in name after him around here, which is interesting. And right now I am on, I'm on a hotel right on, right on the Mississippi. I look right out my window and I can see the Mississippi River.
Yeah, you have a nice view. Yeah. Um, it is nice and boy, the Mississippi is a big river. So big.
Big. And you, you were also, you are also from very close to the Mississippi. So I feel somehow by being close to the Mississippi, I feel a little closer to you. But also I was, I was, I'm thinking about Lucinda Williams because she was more in Louisiana, not close to here.
She's more like on the other side of the state, closer to the Texas border, Lake Charles. But, um, as you know, and as probably most of the people that listen to the podcast, no, because I imagine that we have, there's like four or five people that are our friends that I've already told this story to, but I met is one of my greatest, greatest meetings with another musician. And I'm not Lucinda Williams, not that long ago in Nashville, Tennessee. You and I are both big fans, big fans.
I'm a fan. I mean, who the fuck isn't really? I don't know. I don't want to know those people though.
I don't want to know them either. I don't want to know. Um, but, uh, so I wanted to, I wanted to play a Lucinda Williams song. Oh, is this Tiny Tunes Tuesday or is it?
This is Tiny Tunes Tuesday. It's going to come out today. Maybe. Or we, we Wednesday, I don't know.
Where were you Wednesday? Or Adele. Or Adele. Where you been?
She actually, she acted. Where you been? Lucie activated my find your, find your iPhone today. So I woke up to an alarm emanating from my phone.
I'm like, I did not set an alarm. This is, this is yesterday was my day off. And today I'm in sconced in this hotel room and I don't have to go anywhere until like four o'clock in the afternoon. So no alarms were set, but I knew what it was.
And I was like, oh no. And poor Adele, um, she thought I had sort of a rock star, maybe, maybe a rock star moment last night and during too much too many pills and maybe passed away at the night, but that didn't happen. It did not happen. I feel really bad.
You got to wonder, you got to wonder when you're at home and your person's on the road. You get scared right when I take too long coming home from the grocery store. Yeah, you don't come home from the grocery store. You're like 10 minutes late going home from the grocery store and I'm like, why is she?
I mean, and my mind goes, it goes, it goes places. And so, yeah, um, I know where you're at. I know how you feel. You've had enough time to recover.
I'm a little tender still, but I'm, you know, you're tender. I'm, I'm still pretty, I'm rough. I, I stayed up all night. I don't know.
I do this occasionally. It's been a while. I feel like I've been doing like YouTube videos of my bands. So, so, so self-indulgent.
But, but then again, but then while I'm doing it, I, I, I believe that somehow it's a research. It's like, Hey, how much do I suck? Oh, I don't suck as much as I thought. You know, there's some, there's some pretty good, uh, some footage out there from like 1999 and even from one of the last tours we did, there was, there's a really excellent anyway.
It doesn't matter. We're talking about real shit. We're talking about Lou. Send a referred to as Lou.
By those who seem to know and love her. So should I, should I, should I I try to make it, make it through, make a groggy version of this song. Yeah, I'd love to hear. I don't know what you're going to play so it's a surprise for me.
The dampens your skin, it touches your tongue, it soaks through your shirt, drips down your back. I envy the rain. I envy the sun, it brightens your summer, it warms your body, it holds you in her heat, it makes your day slumber, it makes you hot, it makes you sweat. I envy the sun.
I envy the wind. I envy the rain. I envy the sun. I envy the wind.
Well, that's perfect. Yeah, it's the last song, I think, on Essence, which is one of my favorite SNR records. I love IHID. I'd heard it.
I think when we worked on Dinosaur Junior Records, and back in the day when I would go there, I would go from Los Angeles to Massachusetts and spend quite a bit of time commuting between my parents' house and Jay's house. Each time we did a record, there was always some record that they were playing a lot like Jay and Louisa, Louisa being Jay's wife. There was one time where they were doing a lot of this and I had never heard that record. I haven't heard that in, I don't know, 20 years.
I mean, so long. I don't remember when they came out, but it feels like, when did that come out of me? 2001. I did some research.
It's been over 20 years since I've heard that record, I think. I, oof, she's a fucking poet. Wow. Is that what you call it?
A poet? She a poet? She's a, she's a, her father was a poet. Her father was a poet, but yes.
I just feel like I could read that as a poem, you know, like too, like that would be beautiful written and just reading those words too. Yeah, it's great. So, um, can I just say something really quick about that song? It's like a wedding song.
You know how some, you know, when like a husband and wife, they do their dance, their first dance? That's kind of something. Yeah, I can't, I can't, I mean, to me, it's almost like a heartbroken song. I mean, it's almost like a, it has, it has, there's a lot of, that record is a very, very melancholy record essence as in a lot of yourself, of course, but um, yeah, I don't know, I don't know if I'd want that play in my wedding.
I'll be honest with you. I think I'm just picturing two people dancing and like looking at slowly. We are married. We are married, but someday we're gonna have a wedding because we got married just the two of us and someday we're gonna have a big, someday we're gonna have a big party.
Was I just telling you about that? How we were talking about that again? Yeah, we were talking about it. So let me quickly tell my, listen to the story.
It's gonna be quick because I got, you know, I want to be, I, my first thought when the evening happened, when I did hang out with Lucinda for a night and when I did see LA guns with Lucinda, which is, I thought, you know, I'm just going to keep this story to myself and just tell, tell my close friends, you know, tell a few people. But the last time I was on the story of the other day in Louisville, Louisville, to my friend, Donnie. I was like, maybe I should just tell this on the podcast because it's a good story. So, so the second part of the full conclusion tour that we did, we had a week off in the middle and then at the, the tour began again in Nashville and I contacted my friend.
He's my friend now, Bobby Bear Jr. plays guitar. He plays guitar with guided by voices. I had met him several times.
We are exactly the same age. We are like, we are like within a month of each other, 58 years old. And I was like, Hey, Bobby, I'm coming through Nashville. He's like, Oh, it's cool.
You want to stay at my place? And I'm like, sure I'll stay at your place. And then I'm so going to text maybe a couple of days later. Hey, when you come, do you want to go see LA Guns?
Now LA Guns is like, they're not quite a hair metal band. They're a little bit more of a Guns and Roses band. In fact, they share DNA with Guns and Roses. They kind of, you know, began at the same time.
So he's like, Yeah, let's go see LA Guns. I'm like, I'm, you know, I get to, I get to Nashville. I go to his house and goes like, uh, do you know, you know, Lucinda Williams? And I'm like, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, Bobby. Yeah, Bobby Bear Jr. I do know, heard of her. I don't know.
And she's some, so, uh, he's like, well, you know, she gave me a call and she really wants me to take her to this honky-tong, you know, that night to see a friend of hers from Los Angeles. She's doing a show, her friends are going to show at this honky-tong. I remember the name. So she might be hanging out.
I'm like, okay. And like with us. I have to say, I'm like, I'm like with us. I'm like, I kind of felt like, wow, he knows her, of course, because he's kind of like his dad, Bobby Bear senior is a very, he's a, he's in the country music hall of fame.
This guy's been around for a long time. Yeah, he's, he's kind of from country royalty too. Like he's kind of from country royalty a bit. Is.
So, so I'm like, wow, okay, what, what an evening this is shaping up to be. So I get to Bobby's house and he's on the phone with, he's on the phone with, he's on the phone with, with Cindy at some point. Okay. Yep.
All right. All right. Well, I was thinking we could go out to eat too. Oh good.
Okay. All right. Great. I was like, okay, we're going to go get Lucinda and then we're going to go out to eat.
Then we're going to go see LA guns and then we're going to go to the honky-tong. And I'm like, perfect. So we're, we're hanging, we're hanging with Lucinda and he starts referring to her as a live. So I'm like, okay, so we get into Bobby's car and we drive to this neighborhood Nashville.
Actually very close to where a friend of mine used to live. Oh, it's cool bungalow neighborhood. And we get to our house, we pull up and he kind of gives me a little bit of, you know, kind of prepares me. He's like, you know, Lucinda, things can happen.
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But that's her that's her reputation. I've heard it from many people. It's like, she's fun. She's fun, engaged, and very entertaining person.
And I've heard this before. So I was like, okay, so we pull up, we pull up to loosen this house and Bobby clears out the backseat. You know, he's got all this, whatever, cups and papers in the backseat. So we cleared out the backseat.
And I'm like, well, we're preparing for this. We go up to the front door of the house. We knock on the door. This guy answers and goes, hey, Bobby.
You're kind of like, what's going on, Bobby? He's like, I'm here to pick up blue. You know, she wants me to take her out to the funky talk to see her friend. And we were maybe going to stop by a show beforehand.
He goes, okay, well, hold on for a second. He goes back. We're still on the porch. And I'm like, well, this is wild.
I'm like sitting on the porch. I mean, I mean, he knew Bobby. So it's not that he was sizing us up. He was just kind of like, okay.
So he goes back and then he comes back to the door and he goes, all right, come on in. So we walk into the house. She's not there. And then there's another guy there.
I believe her husband. He's like, hey, Bobby, what's going on? I'm going to get in the same. I don't think the guy had a southern accent.
I'm not sure. I'm just going to get everybody a southern accent in this story. Her husband, I believe is from Minnesota. Yeah.
So he's kind of like, Hey, well, hold on for a second. So he goes, he goes to the back of the house and you hear this conversation like, Hey, okay. And I'm kind of sitting on the couch and still, I feel like I feel like I'm a teenager or like, you know, in my early 20s, don't want to pick up somebody at their mom's. I don't, I would say really interesting vibe.
So we start, I'm making small talk with the guy. It turns out the guy who had opened the door initially was like, one of her tour managers who works for her. She tours quite a bit. She's very, very active performer.
So then listen to comes out. She comes out from the back of the house to the front and she's like, Hey, Bobby, Hey, Lou. And she's, I'm ready to go. And she had this big, kind of really cool piece of jewelry around this cool t-shirt, you know, and had some black jeans on.
She's ready to go. So, so we go out the door. And the guy who initially opened the door comes with us, you know, because I was thinking like, is it just me, Bobby and Lucinda, like, holy crap, I thought the guy comes along, you know, the guy comes along. So we all kind of pile into Bobby's car, Lucinda's up front and Bobby has a great rapport with her.
And she's laughing and he's making her giggle. That's a very, very sweet. And she's cool, totally cool. And we go to a restaurant and we happen to get, we get, we get seated.
And you know, so the, and we have dinner with her. And yeah, we're having dinner with Lucinda. And I'm kind of just like, I'm having a really hard time shutting the voice in my head up, because I'm just like, I don't, I just can't, oh, we have this nice, we have this nice dinner with her, you know, and then, and then it's time to go to LA guns. And so we get back into Bobby's car.
But the decision at that point is that we are going to go back to Lucinda's house and get into her assistance car. And then we're going to go over, he's going to drive. And then so we're in the car. And you know, I'm kind of making a little small talk, I'm making a little bit of the four rays into conversation with her that aren't going, they're not going anywhere.
But that's fine. Because I'm just, you know, I'm, but I do meant at some point she looks at this guy and she goes like, Oh, man, what a beautiful time of night, you know, was, you know, it was dusk. And I said, Oh, it's, it's the crepuscular time. What's that word?
I've never heard that word before. And it's just a beautiful word that describes dusk and dawn, you know, and just like last fancy word. And I said, I'm like, Oh, I can't believe I said this. And I just, I went, yeah, I wrote a song called crepuscular.
I'm like, why the fuck am I talking? Why did I mention I'm a musician or that I write songs? I mean, what's the last thing that somebody on that level wants to hear is like, here's my take. I hear it.
Here's my take. I'm also a songwriter. I'm just like, fuck. You know, but it goes by, you know, it doesn't know, no one seems offended only me.
You're offended? You mean you're offended at yourself? You're embarrassed. I was embarrassed that I even mentioned that I was a songwriter.
Like, what am I trying to do? validate myself? Make the mask more cool. Make her ask questions.
Oh, really? You're a songwriter. Tell me, what am I? Why?
Anyway, I'm okay. It's okay. Mellow out. We get to LA guns.
And it's a club. And the guy who's going to run running the show is this guy, Grimey, who runs this fantastic record store in Nashville. I met him several times and played the place. And boy, you know, we pull up close.
She gets out and Grimey comes out and he's like, whoa, Lou, you're here. So they basically we walk in the crowds. It's a pretty full club. LA guns have yet to go on.
They're playing like hard rock classics in the back in the club. So we're kind of led right through the crowd, you know, like, whoa, and right to a table real close to the stage. And she had also, this is pretty funny leading up to her in the car right over. She said, well, I've always been interested.
Now I'm, I'm one of my best friends dated like the guitar player or the singer or something. I'm like, well, she's kind of sick to see LA guns. Because she so we sit down and I happen to be sitting right next to her at this little round table. I'm like, okay, make some conversation, Lou.
So I said, so I said, Hey, you know, what's your favorite like hard rock man? Who were your favorite? What's your favorite kind of heavy, heavy rock band? And she thinks about it for a second.
She goes, Hmm, well, I do like tool. I'm like, wow, she I mean, like, I'm in that. I didn't know what she would say necessarily. I thought it was not it though.
Name checks, some 70s hard rock band. I didn't know. I just, uh, wow, AC DC even I had no idea. Sure.
But tool, but tool. And then she I think she even said like at that point, like, you know, nine inch nails also were good to I like them. Um, so I found out the tool was her favorite hard rock man. And uh, and still it's like, you know, I don't have didn't establish a flow with Lou, but that's fine.
I'm psyched, you know, and LA guns play and it's pretty funny. And I mean, the whole time they're playing, I'm with the P.D. them just to get the whole story. There were two original members of LA guns going like, how old are those guys?
They're exactly my age. It's really fun. And they have a young band, they had this young band of like rockers that looked like they were just teleported as if they were teleported from 1988 or something from the sunset strip and put on stage with Tracy guns and the other guy. It's amazing.
These young guys who are so devoted to their look and to and to and to being in LA guns and making it that moment. And if they could be smoking on that stage, they would be, but nobody smokes them. You know, it's a, it's a guy that voices nor a gun smoke on stage anymore. Um, so Bobby meanwhile, he's also sitting, you know, she's kind of, I wouldn't say sandwich between the two of us, but he's on the other side of her making her laugh.
And so we watched four or five songs and then it's time to go to the honky dog. So we get let out the back door, the secret back door and uh, our driver, our driver at that point, her assistant is, he pulls his, he's driving one of those muscle cars, one of those new ones, those, I don't know, challenger or, you know, new Mustangs that are super, super, super, so we get into that car and we drive to the honky talk and, um, we get to the honky type of pull right up, you know, so she can kind of get out and, and Bobby's like, he's like holding her arm and leaving her, she's like holding her hand and leading her places. Like, it was so sweet, you know, and uh, uh, uh, so yeah, he holds her hand or she's holding onto his arm, you know, leads her up the stairs to the, to the club. We walk into the club and women, these women surround her.
All these women kind of dressed kind of like Stevie Nicks, you know, and at this point, Lucinda had actually, she had been psyched because we'd had dinner and no one had said anything to her, you know, and I mean, she was like, I think at that time in privacy, right? Yeah, she was actually, we'd had a pretty cool night of her being kind of anonymous, you know, yeah, even at, even at LA guns. Cause I think I don't, I, I'm going to assume and from what I've seen from my experience being in proximity of people that are very famous, it can be intense for them. And it can be, cause people are compelled towards them and can really, it can be a little suffocating for them, I imagine.
But when we got into that club, the women who came up to her were like, really, like they were like her friends or something. I mean, she seemed pleased. Like she was, she was just all of a sudden surrounded by this. I mean, you could just feel the love, you know what I mean?
That these women were just like, and they were just chatting away and they let her, they let her up to a table right near the stage. And she sat and she watched her friend play. And then Bobby and I tried to get back to his car. Cause, and as we did, and Bobby then like we were, we went out to a patio while the show was going on.
And he was just telling me kind of the history of the honky-tonk and how close it is. Very close to this guy who's long since passed away. But John Hartford, who was a very famous Nashville songwriter, he wrote Gentle on My Mind among other things, which I was very impressed by because I'm like, I have a gentle on my mind is one of my favorite songs. And so Bobby was going to give me a little bit of his, he always dropped some cool knowledge about, growing up in Nashville.
Like he, I think he lived next door to Tammi and, George and Tammi at one point on a lake. That's wild. Yeah. Anyway, so we left Lucinda there cause her dude was there with his car and Bobby and I, and I, ooh, bring it back to you at his house.
And that was my night with Lucinda in proximity to Lucinda. And then went back to Nashville a couple, not that long ago. And he was like, yeah, man, Lucinda called me up the other night and we wanted to go out to eat with us. It's like, I think she thinks you're my roommate.
But she's, so she has, if Bobby and I wanted to go out to eat. Honey, does she remember me? So you imprinted on her. So you're not just, you know, maybe in some way.
It's okay then. So it wasn't, maybe she was just sus and yup. And she decided you were okay. It was like, maybe she needs a little time to, you know, you know, well, so I don't think she disliked me.
I'll put it that way. Sounds like she disliked you at all. She's willing to go out to dinner with you again. I know.
This is correct. I'm getting wrong. I mean, this is what Bobby said. I'm a bad junior.
You're told me. So I don't know. But, but it was really cool. I mean, she was.
She told, she told some pretty funny stories. She told stories about recording her records. She told a story about dancing with a woman at a club. And she just, it was just funny.
She was just real, just had the end. And Bobby, of course, was just was pulling these wonderful stories out of her. It was very nice. So that's, that's it.
Well, would you say that I don't think of you as being like very, you don't typically get nervous meeting people. I also don't really get too nervous meeting people. Only occasionally there's certain people that kind of like tweak me. And I'm like, oh, I get excited about like being near them and proximity.
Like Bob Mould makes me feel like really crazy and stimulated when I get to be near him. That's the crazy, like, you know, I'm like, oh my God, Bob Mould. And I just love him so much. He's in my living room.
Okay. You know, my God, good people. Anyway, he's like one of those people. But you know, I feel like fortunate that I just, I just feel like, you know, people are people and they're, this is just their job.
And so for the most part, I don't really get too worked up. And that's a nice thing, actually. It's nice to not get too stressed about it. But I do think that I would feel, I think I might feel a little bit of that nerves around her too.
And did you feel that too? Because you don't typically feel that way either. But I kind of feel like you did. Yeah.
I did. But I did a lot of, I sort of summoned a lot of my recent coping mechanisms, which was like deep breaths. And then also just like, you don't have to say anything right now. You don't have to insert yourself in the conversation.
Just observe what's happening. Enjoy, enjoy Bobby, Barry, Jr. and Lucinda Williams talking to each other. Enjoy the tenderness that it seems to exist that's between them as friends.
And you know, and this is cool. I was like, this is cool. I am going to see LA guns with Lucinda Williams. I know.
I've told the world, I was gonna, I was gonna see how long I could hold on to this. But the thing is, I wanted to say, I wanted to do the story publicly before, and this always happens with me as I start to embellish the story as I go along. Classic, you know what I mean? Yeah, classic, you know, I started exaggerating.
Yeah. So let's try to keep it as fairly close to the truth as possible. All right. Now you may play over me and I will speak, I will cease to talk.
Thank you for listening to Tiny King's TV. Where were you? Where were you? Part of the Rotten Gration's podcast.
This was not a very tiny two-two day. So it's a six-one Wednesday. We're chipping 38. It's good for me to know how long these stories are, too, because I'm like, I'll tell these stories.
And then I'm like, you know, like my friend, Donnie the other night, I was probably, I probably told him that it probably took me an hour to tell the story. It's like, tear God. I got a tear, Lord. You're coming aboard, Lou.
You're getting boring. Oh, well, now you got a podcast. You can just tell everyone. Yeah, here you go.
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