Supposed to be right here not walking into the bedroom get in here. Just keep walking straight past the studio What happened to it cut off the tape right out. Oh, yeah, recorded right to the end of the cassette Or rather for track man, okay, yeah, it's not me. No, of course not separate entity.
Yes, that's part of our concept, right? There's a separate entity named for track man. Mm-hmm. Who has commentary and makes sort of absurd comments here and there and pops up Yeah, time to time.
Hi, Lou Hi, mama. How are you? I'm okay. Yeah, it's Wednesday here.
We're rolling through a gray and drippy Wednesday It's like drippy outside here. Yeah went from the snowstorm to rain and kind of warm. It's 45 degrees out The rain took a lot out of the snow last night the rain cleared the sidewalks. Mm-hmm.
I like it when that happens because sometimes I'll be shelving I'm like yeah, can I just rain and help me with this? Can I just rain and melt this shit? I Really loved the song blame it on the rain by Millie vanilla man. Mm-hmm.
I know that they were fake group But I'm just saying like I would love to talk about Millie vanilla That's the guy who loved Millie the guy the guy who was the mastermind behind Millie vanilla Mm-hmm who wrote the songs yeah and hired the actual singers and hired the performers. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Boney M What he's the bony M guy it is yes, and hopefully for track mental help me out and just blare his name over the top right now I mean bony M if you guys don't know You don't know you got to know you got to find daddy's cool does daddy's cool bony.
I mean we'll do it. It's a daddy's cool daddy cool daddy cool Yeah, daddy cool daddy. Cool. I'm playing it on the rain.
We also have a bony M Christmas all of them, which is amazing We do we listen to that We had a bony Bony M I Yeah, it was great. It's the money. I'm appreciation time. What is this?
Back it's two o'clock my time. It's just me that you're already on the airport. Tell me all about this phone call that you've recorded a little while ago I found a tape I had I had taped all of my phone messages onto a tape with a cassette tape and I found the cassette Thanks to do that. I love that you thought to do that well, you know I'm a bit of an archivist a bit of like capture things to use them later I actually would use good for you like that and sort of collages and tape show tapes that I made So I found the original tape and that's that's a fascinating message Tell me more about it.
Suzanne McCarthy. That's Suzanne Suzanne McCarthy she ran flower booking that book said it out and pretty much made sebido early on She hooked us up with all of our record labels. She had a jacket that said ride the darker wave on the back of it That's one of my songs. That's cool.
She was a real fan. She lived in Boston Then she moved to Chicago and she had it there and flower became a very successful booking agency Mm-hmm, you know and she kind of kind of started with sebido. So was that talking to you about a sebido tour? Yeah, who's Chris?
Who was the road dog? I don't know who Chris is. I don't know who doesn't and Gus I don't remember any of that. I don't remember those names, but we were we had to choose road crews We had to like and she was asking about opening bands.
Like how many I thought that was interesting too I thought you know we had to know we had two opening bands generally we got this band Godhead silo from North Dakota And we really loved Harry Pussy from Florida. I didn't mean to say that. It's just I it's just I thought of opening bands I'm like oh yes, Harry Pussy opened for us from Florida from Miami. Were they women?
There was one woman in the band Mm-hmm. She played drums. Did you ever see her pussy? No, okay.
No, I did not. No confirmation that on the Harry, but got it. Um, okay, just Scrambly who did because I want to there's things I want to say. Okay, go back.
Oh That was Fred. Oh, stop. Yeah, Fred worked for flower booking in Chicago. Do you know we're talking about everyone?
You should play that again. I swear. Okay. Well Fred Armisen.
That's Fred Armisen. Yeah. Yeah, that's he was the assistant Yeah, you like read my mind. Yeah, that's great.
Yeah brush with a storm. I know pre-starred Fred. Wow Way pre-starred him Fred Armisen was he was the Suzanne's assistant. That's amazing.
Call me He was very funny of course and then he was a great drummer. Mm-hmm. He is a great drummer He's a great drummer and he played with this band those bastard souls that opened for sebadot. Wow.
And that's when we got to know him and he Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's so cool I love that you kept these things I it's funny because I I Kind of got rid of a bunch of stuff actually with that idea of like oh for when I write my memoirs I used to like collect like movie theater stubs, you know and concert tickets and napkins from restaurants and coffee shops and things like that or matchbooks to kind of like Some day have the things that would jog my memory to tell the stories from my past right and with this idea that I would write a memoir in my life because Dear dear friends I when I was a little girl my very first thing I wanted to be was a writer I I was obsessed with this idea. I was like I'm a writer and I had this Identity I guess until I was maybe 19 20 that did you like reading books? You had I guess so yeah?
I just loved stories I loved making up stories and I spent so much time kind of playing alone and making up little stories when I was little cuz I've Told your brothers and I uh I just Really was into twins and triplets this idea of twins and triplets I didn't have any sisters and so I always wanted one and I just so I kind of made up one in these stories and I don't know I just really liked the idea of being a writer and I did I loved reading when I was little and so I don't know I just really wanted to be a writer so you need to be a writer of a series of books based based upon twins and triplets Yes, and I did write a lot of like little short stories about twins and triplets Do you remember the triplets name? No, cuz there was multiple stories. I did tons of them, but and that was different sets of Yes, yes, and each time I would do a new like mini short story about a set of triplets For example, it would take me forever because I was obsessed with naming them. Yeah Yeah, that's what I was thinking That's why I asked because I think naming them would be it was my favorite part and one of my favorite things to do was to Go to the public library in St.
Paul when my mom would take me and I would get out the baby name book And I would just spend hours pouring through the baby name book to find my favorite names Well, that's just that's just gosh darn cute. Oh, that's so sweet So anyway, I had this idea when I was very very young that I when I was an old woman that I would write my memoirs Yeah, I know that good sins memoirs. You may know her from the triplet trilogy I'll very very popular series of books from the 1980s. She was only 12 years old when she wrote the series one of the best-selling Youngest authors of all time Adele Atkinson Now has written her memoir I'm not gonna write a memoir.
So I made that decision are the tickets in the trash. Mm-hmm. A lot of them are a lot of them are I kind of Had like a purging we talked about that another pod with the deer diary I'm on speed or something. Oh, yeah, you are I'm on his own everyone steroids That was Billy Ruiin who's that?
He died a few years ago, but he was this fixture on the Boston music scene and we're a long trench coat and he was always sort of really disheveled but seemed very aristocratic and Sometimes a little drunk and but he booked all of these shows and he was amazing in Boston Call you up and he put he brought me to Boston for the first time after I was kicked out of dinosaur junior Which was kind of a big deal He brought me when he was always he would always call me and give me shows like really cool He when I left Boston he put together a goodbye show for me Mmm, tell me to bring anybody I wanted and I got like Elliot Smith and That's really great hardcore band called Fat Day from Boston He kind of put it all together. He was very really unique anybody who was Was in the scene at the time knows when talking about they're making a movie about him Wow, Jenny designed a release for because I did do a little bit I spoke a bit about him For the movie or the book or what for something related to it something related to Billy Ruiin But the other thing was that he had this this like obsession with giving people mixtapes hmm or just tapes of like of like of like obscure avant-garde Classical music or like he it could be anything jazz like he was just obsessed with like spreading Music and spent time just making these compilation tapes and he was very serious about delivering the tapes as you can hear in the message He's like literally so you know, I mean he'd be like wow, I know I mean it sound like um, yeah Like delivering the goods kind of you know It was just music and the thing is he would tell you when you'd see him He'd be like well, I'm gonna be I have a tape and I have a tape tape in mind for you And I have to deliver them and he would tell you that and then you kind of forget that he told you are you be like That's cool. You don't have to give me it's okay, Billy It's not you know, but then I would get a serious phone call like that like look I just saw Bob at the S&S I don't know what he's referring to perhaps a diner. Mm-hmm It's about Bob Faye Bob Faye who was part of the Boston.
That's where I met Bob and where we hung out and where he became the drummer for Sabato, but Billy was just serious about these tapes. I'm having kind of an emotional reaction to the story because When you're describing this his wanting to like spread the music and he said like oh I'm thinking of you and I've got this tape I want to give you I My whole the first word that just came to my mind was how generous Wow What a generous thing to do to like be thinking of others and then be thinking of them enough to like Attach even music to them like I think you would like this like I love that. I just think it's so generous for how How many how he knew everyone and how sort of ubiquitous he was he was incredibly Personally was personal in January. That sounds really very genuine Billy was like really?
yeah, I'm sweet that you're You're so affected by that. What now that I think about it. Oh what a gift Evan that was Evan Evan dandow everyone once I heard Martha's vineyard. I kind of yeah put it together Yeah, he was a he was someone who called He has he hears this episode like randomly all the time He happened I think he's from Boston and he grew up in the neighborhood that I was living in at that time I was living on Beacon Street not Beacon Hill Beacon Hill is like the most Mm-hmm, you know blood blood wealth.
It's a cheers. It's at the foot of Beacon Hill. Mm-hmm. Cheers the bar.
Yeah So yeah, so Evan but I really like how he says in that message like you'd be really pleased if I didn't pick up Yeah, I like that's like halfway through the thing I was like do we really want to hang out with really want to hang out with Lue Barlow right now? Oh my gosh But yeah, you know you would call me from parties at like three o'clock in the morning Oh my gosh questions about dinosaur junior and Anyway, that was that's an Evan dandow phone message. What year is that you think? Well, that would be 1994 and 95 I was really enjoying the lemon heads around that time 95 I saw them at first Avenue with Juliana and it was amazing Unabashedly adore it was really one of my faves.
I loved that concert I'm glad I got to see the lemon heads when Evan was in like, you know, kind of juicy prime youth Mmm. Yeah, well incompetent incredibly intelligent and like a place pop songs. Come on. Well song I mean, you know, it's a shame about Ray come on feel the lemon heads are really stuffed full of like memorable Songs that he sort of effortlessly talk about hooks.
Whoo. Yeah. Yeah, and catchy as fuck, you know, really those we listen I can't remember we listen to which one you listen to it's a shame about Ray maybe you want to drive to Boston Last couple years and we were just like I got it's still good. Yeah, we're like, oh shit This is exact.
This is still just as good if not. Okay, so this doesn't sound ship without a rudder It's like a ship without a rudder is like a ship without a rudder is like a ship without a rudder is like a ship without a rudder I was like, oh my god Still fucking brilliant. Yeah, such a pretty pretty voice too. Yep, pretty man pretty voice And oh, here's a fun fact tell me John Davis's father Was Evan dandos favorite teacher?
Yes, yes in Boston. That's right John Davis's father taught at the Commonwealth School I believe is the name of it and the Harvard area Street right near the public garden right near Beacon Hill, okay right near where Evan was calling me I think he actually might have grown up on there's a series of street there parallel streets Hmm new berry beacon. It's the cross streets to beacon a new berry that are alphabetized Arlington Berkeley clairndon Dartmouth Exeter Fairfield Gloucester and Harroford Arlington. This is actually making me think of Holly his sister because I Haven't heard about her in a while or seen her post on Facebook.
I'm like where did she go? Maybe maybe it maybe Facebook maybe she just wasn't into it anyway. Yeah, she's like I'm done with you I'm not fair enough. I don't know you gotta take you gotta go easy on that stuff.
You can burn out. Yeah, I got it She might have burned out. Yeah, well, I was just thinking you know she's nice to see it shows and stuff too. Yeah Taking a little swig of your liquid death there.
Hmm liquid death Are you ever gonna write your memoirs? Do you think? I don't have any interest in that. I don't yeah, I don't either anymore.
I don't It seems like it would take a lot of time. Mm-hmm. I also feel like I have a lot more work to do before that would even be Viable. Mm-hmm.
You know before that many people would care your story is still evolving. My story is not You're not even I mean come on. Wow, you're just beginning, baby And it also this is the other thing for me to compose a coherent sentence or let's say three coherent sentences takes me on average an hour Yeah, yeah, I mean 45 hours. Yeah, I exaggerating a little bit 45 minutes is more like three coherent sentences about anything true.
It's like my Instagram posts. Yeah, like you know when Those are his yesterday you said you were very thoughtful yesterday You're like, okay, I'm not gonna talk to you while you're making an Instagram post because it takes me so long And you and it's like you and I never know if you understand how truly long it takes me actually I I think I had a light bulb yesterday about it And I appreciate you sort of stepping back a little bit and giving me time to finish my Instagram post You're welcome. I feel like I get so giddy and excited in your company that I just want to yep to you all the time and Probably because I like to get as much luen as I can when you're home And maybe other people have this tooth partner to travel the time in their home You're kind of like a little puppy around them like I just want to talk to you hang out with you all the time But so I while you were working on your Instagram post we were I think sitting in bed together and I was sitting next to you watching You do it and I was realizing that I was talking to you like interrupting you and I could see like your finger kind of like pausing in the air like Oh god, I'm trying to complete a thought and then I I was like, okay, this is gonna be an unofficial not a New Year's resolution This is just gonna be more of a life goal. I'm gonna try to When I know you're working on like a post or you're writing I'm gonna just keep my mouth shut and let you do anything You don't have to go that far.
I don't interrupt you. I just mean I want to interrupt you. Could you say may I interrupt you? Oh, but that that's also an interrupting.
It's not that is interrupting. No, no, that's not an interruption Okay, well, maybe I'll do that next time. I'll just say talk you know You could put your hand gently on my shoulder. It actually be more are you free to listen?
Because usually I'm talking at you I talk at you playing. I just meant let's not like let's not cartoonize this we we have a very We talk at each other mutually indulgent with each other we do and we talk at each other at times and I and you know That's right. You have to be a soundboard for the other 11 one another did we just talk over the Why do I even bother with these ending parts anymore says for track man? Well, he tried he tried all right.
Let's get a do bye-bye