Who Framed Woman-Ochre? w/ Sabrina Wu

Laci welcomes writer, comedian, and actor Sabrina Wu (Murderbot, Joy Ride) to grab their monocle and magnifying glass and dive into the strange story of Jerry and Rita Alter, a sweet couple from New Mexico who passed away, and may have stolen a $160 million Willem de Kooning painting just to hang it behind their bedroom door.Plus, in Scammer of the Week: a homeowners’ association goes full villain after Irena Green’s lawn turned a little less green and somehow, it ends with her getting arrested. Stay schemin’! CON-gregation, catch Laci's TV Show Scam Goddess, now on Freeform and Hulu!Did you miss out on a custom-signed Scam Goddess book? Look no more, nab your copy on PODSWAG Follow on Instagram:Scam Goddess Pod: @scamgoddesspodLaci Mosley: @divalaciSabrina Wu: @asabrinawu Research by Kathryn Doyle  SOURCEShttps://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/09/nyregion/a-de-kooning-a-theft-and-an-enduring-mystery.htmlhttps://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/18/arts/de-kooning-higgins-sharp-harwood-fbi.html?unlocked_article_code=1.YE8.GU2s.vAP6jr-Zr2bc&smid=url-shareThe Thief Collector documentary https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/04/fbi-new-mexico-teachers-alleged-art-thieveshttps://www.abcactionnews.com/news/local-news/i-team-investigates/hoa-violations-involving-womans-brown-grass-led-to-her-being-arrested-and-jailed-for-seven-dayshttps://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona/2022/09/15/long-lost-willem-de-kooning-painting-makes-its-way-back-arizona/8058998001/https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/arts-letters/articles/de-kooning-art-thefthttps://www.scdailypress.com/2024/03/15/california-writer-finds-two-stolen-works-estate-now-famous-cliff-couple/ Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Scam Goddess ad-free and a whole week early. Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.