Who Hunts, Who Doesn't & The Politics of Why with Paul McCarney PhD — WildFed Podcast #158

We're talking today with Paul McCarney, PhD. Paul's an environmental social scientist, hunter, and conservationist that lives in Canada's remote Yukon. You could think of it as our northern neighbor's Alaska. He's in Whitehorse, which is north of Juneau but east of Anchorage. Most recently, Paul hosted the HuntToEat Podcast, where he covered topics that, until recently, haven't been part of the typical hunting or conservation conversation. Like Daniel, Paul's an adult-onset hunter. Coming to it later in life — like so many people today — has given him some unique perspectives that differ a lot from those typically held by folks raised in North American hunting culture. Now, Paul and Daniel have some very different socio-political views, which will become apparent in this interview, yet they approach this conversation as a dialectic. Neither of them are interested in playing gotcha, but rather wanted to hear from one another on issues that can be contentious, or even taboo in the world of conservation. We think this approach is needed now more than ever, since we're allowing these cultural issues to divide us to a degree we haven't witnessed before in our lifetime. Hopefully this conversation inspires more dialectic and a little less pointless debate. That said, Paul and Daniel are both very intrigued by the rapidly changing demographics in hunting, though Paul's interests lie more in the intersection of race, gender, and culture. Issues that have become significant talking points in most other arenas in recent years, but that have only just started to become issues in the realms of hunting and conservation. So it's really interesting to get his take on this. We've seen a lot of changes happening in this area recently, but of course, there's still a lot of work to be done. Like Paul, we want to see the world of hunting be a place that all people feel welcome, since we see it as a fundamentally human pursuit. Not one that belongs to specific race or gender or ideology. It's a heritage that belongs to all the peoples of the world. So while Paul and Daniel might approach the conversation differently, Daniel doesn't see them as being on different teams, rather more like the two different wings on a plane. You need both to get where you're going safely. It would be a very bad idea for folks on one side of a plane to try to actively dismantle the other side's aisle and wing. But, unfortunately, that's just become the norm in our — as Mike Judge would say — Idiocracy. So, it's in the spirit of dialectic we present this conversation with Paul McCarney. We're looking forward to your thoughts and feedback. We don't touch on these topics often here, so we honestly don't know where you, as a listener, stand. So please don't hesitate to comment on the post associated with this interview on Instagram and Facebook. We'll keep an eye out for your thoughts. Until then, let's continue the dialectic. We can all learn a lot from each other. We just have to be open and listen. View full show notes, including links to resources from this episode here: https://www.wild-fed.com/podcast/158