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EPISODE · Jul 15, 2026 · 27 MIN

Why Agents Can't Be Governed Like People with Amazon Web Services VP & CISO Amy Herzog

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On the 42nd episode of Enterprise AI Defenders, host Evan Reiser (CEO and co-founder, Abnormal AI) is joined by Amy Herzog, VP & CISO at Amazon Web Services. AWS is the world's largest cloud provider, and its active defense systems process more than 400 trillion network flows every day. Amy explains why AI changes the speed and cost of security rather than its fundamentals, why vulnerability management is collapsing from a month to minutes, and why autonomous agents need their own identity and authorization models rather than the controls built for people.Quick Hits from Amy:On the scale that makes automation non-negotiable: "We process over 400 trillion network flows a day."On the end of the patch cycle: "We can't talk about 30-day patch cycles anymore."On why agents cannot be governed like people: "They are trained to seek a goal."Book Recommendation: Measure What Matters by John DoerrLike what you hear? Leave us a review and subscribe to the show on Apple, Spotify, and YouTube.Enterprise AI Defenders is a show where top security executives share specific ways AI changes the threat landscape and the defenses that hold up in real environments.Find more great insights from technology leaders and enterprise software experts at https://www.enterprisesoftware.blog/Enterprise AI Defenders is produced by Abnormal Studios.

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