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EPISODE · Feb 27, 2025 · 1H 22M

Why AIs Misbehave and How We Could Lose Control (with Jeffrey Ladish)

from Future of Life Institute Podcast · host Gus Docker

On this episode, Jeffrey Ladish from Palisade Research joins me to discuss the rapid pace of AI progress and the risks of losing control over powerful systems. We explore why AIs can be both smart and dumb, the challenges of creating honest AIs, and scenarios where AI could turn against us.   We also touch upon Palisade's new study on how reasoning models can cheat in chess by hacking the game environment. You can check out that study here:   https://palisaderesearch.org/blog/specification-gaming  Timestamps:  00:00 The pace of AI progress  04:15 How we might lose control  07:23 Why are AIs sometimes dumb?  12:52 Benchmarks vs real world  19:11 Loss of control scenarios 26:36 Why would AI turn against us?  30:35 AIs hacking chess  36:25 Why didn't more advanced AIs hack?  41:39 Creating honest AIs  49:44 AI attackers vs AI defenders  58:27 How good is security at AI companies?  01:03:37 A sense of urgency 01:10:11 What should we do?  01:15:54 Skepticism about AI progress

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On this episode, Jeffrey Ladish from Palisade Research joins me to discuss the rapid pace of AI progress and the risks of losing control over powerful systems. We explore why AIs can be both smart and dumb, the challenges of creating honest AIs, and scenarios where AI could turn against us.    We also touch upon Palisade's new study on how reasoning models can cheat in chess by hacking the game environment. You can check out that study here:    https://palisaderesearch.org/blog/specification-gaming   Timestamps:   00:00 The pace of AI progress   04:15 How we might lose control   07:23 Why are AIs sometimes dumb?   12:52 Benchmarks vs real world   19:11 Loss of control scenarios  26:36 Why would AI turn against us?   30:35 AIs hacking chess   36:25 Why didn't more advanced AIs hack?   41:39 Creating honest AIs   49:44 AI attackers vs AI defenders   58:27 How good is security at AI companies?   01:03:37 A sense of urgency  01:10:11 What should we do?   01:15:54 Skepticism about AI progress

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