Why Birds Matter More Than You Think | St Helena, Penguin Wins & Conservation Hope

Kate Turkington sits down with Mark Anderson, CEO of BirdLife South Africa, to explore why birds matter more than we realise. From getting unexpectedly stranded on St Helena and meeting the island’s rare wirebird, to a life-changing swim with whale sharks, Mark shares unforgettable stories from the wild. The conversation dives into bird conservation successes, the fight to save African penguins, and how ordinary people can help ensure the world never wakes up to a silent dawn.