EPISODE · Jan 17, 2026 · 51 MIN
Why Bitcoin Has Fallen Behind Gold & What Could Come Next
from Unchained · host Laura Shin
Thank you to our sponsor, Figure! As tensions between the Trump administration and the Federal Reserve rise, gold and silver have surged to record highs. Bitcoin, meanwhile, has struggled to keep pace, raising uncomfortable questions about its “digital gold” narrative. In this back-to-back Unchained episode, Vinny Lingham, cofounder of Xash, and Eric Fine, portfolio manager at VanEck, offer two distinct but complementary perspectives on what’s happening beneath the surface of global markets. Vinny explains why gold’s liquidity, trust, and central-bank adoption still dwarf Bitcoin’s, and why that gap led him to design a gold-backed, reward-bearing stablecoin, USDX. Eric walks through VanEck’s provocative analysis showing gold could reach $39,000 or even $184,000 if the dollar were to lose its reserve-currency dominance and gold had to back the money supply. He also dives into why some developed markets may be more fragile than investors assume. Guests: Vinny Lingham, Co-founder, and President of Xash Eric Fine, Portfolio Manager, Active Emerging Markets Debt at VanEck Links: Why Gold and Bitcoin Work Best Together Why Bitcoin Is Tanking Despite Gold Reaching High After High How Venezuela Shows Why Bitcoin, Crypto and Stablecoins Help Everyday People Bitcoin Rallies to $93,000 After U.S. Attack on Venezuela Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Thank you to our sponsor, Figure! As tensions between the Trump administration and the Federal Reserve rise, gold and silver have surged to record highs. Bitcoin, meanwhile, has struggled to keep pace, raising uncomfortable questions about its “digital gold” narrative. In this back-to-back Unchained episode, Vinny Lingham, cofounder of Xash, and Eric Fine, portfolio manager at VanEck, offer two distinct but complementary perspectives on what’s happening beneath the surface of global markets. Vinny explains why gold’s liquidity, trust, and central-bank adoption still dwarf Bitcoin’s, and why that gap led him to design a gold-backed, reward-bearing stablecoin, USDX. Eric walks through VanEck’s provocative analysis showing gold could reach $39,000 or even $184,000 if the dollar were to lose its reserve-currency dominance and gold had to back the money supply. He also dives into why some developed markets may be more fragile than investors assume. Guests: Vinny Lingham, Co-founder, and President of Xash Eric Fine, Portfolio Manager, Active Emerging Markets Debt at VanEck Links: Why Gold and Bitcoin Work Best Together Why Bitcoin Is Tanking Despite Gold Reaching High After High How Venezuela Shows Why Bitcoin, Crypto and Stablecoins Help Everyday People Bitcoin Rallies to $93,000 After U.S. Attack on Venezuela Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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