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EPISODE · Oct 19, 2025 · 51 MIN

Why “Boring” Businesses Make the Best Startups (Replay Ep with Matthew Browne)

from First Cheque with Cheryl Mack & Maxine Minter

Win $2,000 in credits with the Day One Network — take our 2-minute audience survey before 30 June: dayone.fm/surveyEpisode SummaryMatt Browne is the Co-founder and Managing Partner of Black Nova Venture Partners, one of Australia’s most active early-stage funds. Before becoming an investor, Matt founded multiple companies, including enterprise software firm Dunsafe, which sold to global corporates like Suncorp and Brickworks, and learned firsthand what it takes to turn “boring” B2B SaaS into beautiful business.In this episode, Cheryl and Maxine sit down with Matt to unpack what “boring but mission-critical” really means, why operators often make the best early-stage investors, and what it’s actually like to co-found a venture fund. Matt shares his frameworks for identifying resilient software businesses, the economics behind long-LTV enterprise customers, and how his founder experience shapes the way Black Nova supports startups today.They also dig into the differences between SMB and enterprise sales, why going from enterprise → small business is nearly impossible, and what it takes to build a fund that’s more startup than finance firm. And, in true Matt style, he caps it off with his Big Cojones moment, jumping off Auckland’s Sky Tower to win a customer.Sponsors:First Cheque is supported by our wonderful sponsors:Deel: Global hiring and payroll can be a headache. Deel brings HR, IT and payroll together in one platform, helping companies including Shopify, Revolut and ElevenLabs scale internationally.Ready to expand your business?Build your global team with Deel at deel.com/dayone.___Pear Tree: Pear Tree helps Australian and New Zealand founders build high-performing offshore teams without the agency middleman.As local hiring becomes more expensive and harder to fill, many operators are turning to offshore talent across engineering, development, marketing, accounting and operations at a fraction of local salary costs.The offshore horror stories you hear usually aren’t a talent problem. They’re the result of outsourcing agencies that overcharge clients while underpaying staff. Pear Tree takes a different approach through a direct, transparent model where your team is paid fairly, fully compliant, and focused entirely on your business.As part of the Day One community, you’ll receive a free team audit to identify where offshore talent could move the needle in your business, plus 20% off your first hire. Learn more at http://dayone.fm/peartreeFirst Cheque is part of Day One.Day One helps founders and startup operators make better business decisions more often. To learn more, join our newsletter to be notified of new First Cheque episodes and upcoming shows.Mentioned in this episode:Deel x PX_Script 1This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podtrac - https://analytics.podtrac.com/privacy-policy-gdrpSpotify Ad Analytics - https://www.spotify.com/us/legal/ad-analytics-privacy-policy/

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