Why both parties are holding out as the shutdown drags on

As the government shutdown continues, Republicans and Democrats both say the American public is on their side. The Wall Street Journal’s Siobhan Hughes joins to discuss the politics keeping the government closed. Candidates in the New York City mayoral race faced off in a debate Thursday night. Vanity Fair’s James Pogue breaks down the rise of leading candidate Zohran Mamdani. Sports betting has exploded in popularity since the Supreme Court paved the way for states to legalize it in 2018. On this week’s Apple News In Conversation, Jonathan D. Cohen, author of ‘Losing Big: America’s Reckless Bet on Sports Gambling,’ unpacks what sports betting’s widespread acceptance says about our culture. Plus, former national-security adviser John Bolton was indicted for allegedly mishandling classified information, why Trump issued a strong warning to Hamas, and the German museum Taylor Swift fans are flocking to. Today’s episode was hosted by Shumita Basu.