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EPISODE · May 12, 2026 · 7 MIN

Why College Programmers Aren't Getting Hired Anymore

from Small Business Big Visibility · host Jason McKenzie

Most small business owners are still using AI like a fancy search engine — asking it questions, getting answers, doing the work themselves. That's not where AI is anymore. The next phase is already here, and it's something different entirely.In this episode, I'll walk through what agentic AI actually means in practice: instead of you asking it a question, you give it a goal, and it takes the steps to complete the work. I'll cover real examples — how agentic AI is replacing entry-level programming jobs, the tools available right now that can answer your phones, schedule appointments, and update your CRM, and what most small business owners can already do with platforms they may already be paying for like High Level and Gmail. I'll also flag where the risk lives, including OpenClaw — a tool getting massive attention but explicitly not the right starting point for non-technical owners.This is part of the AI for Small Business miniseries — a run of episodes on what AI actually changes for small business owners, what's worth using, and what's a waste of time.After 15+ years helping small businesses get more visible, I've watched plenty of owners stay stuck doing $20-an-hour work because they couldn't afford to delegate it. Agentic AI changes that math. The shift isn't whether to use AI — it's whether you're using it to answer your questions or to actually do your work.CHAPTERS:0:00 What if AI didn't just write — what if it actually worked?0:36 Quick refresher: what agentic AI is0:55 The shift from responding to doing1:06 The programmer hiring collapse — one example of agentic AI in action2:03 Email management as an entry point2:28 OpenClaw — what it is and why most owners should stay away (for now)3:37 What agentic AI needs from you: context, process, and tool access3:53 An AI system that answers calls, schedules, and updates the CRM4:55 What you can start using today5:12 Using High Level for chatbots and phone calls5:46 Why agentic AI quality is on a hockey-stick curve right now6:46 How to ask AI to recommend agentic tools for your specific weak pointsMENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:🎧 Earlier in the AI for Small Business miniseries: 3 AI Employees You Can Hire This Week🎧 Earlier in the AI for Small Business miniseries: How to Use AI Without Losing Your VoiceABOUT SMALL BUSINESS BIG VISIBILITY:A podcast for small business owners who want practical, real-world strategies to grow without burnout. Hosted by Jason McKenzie — founder of Boise Web and a 15+ year veteran helping small businesses become more visible, more profitable, and more sustainable.Episode 399🔗 https://smallbusinessbigvisibility.com/#AIForSmallBusiness #SmallBusinessOwner #SmallBusinessMarketing

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Most small business owners are still using AI like a fancy search engine — asking it questions, getting answers, doing the work themselves. That's not where AI is anymore. The next phase is already here, and it's something different entirely.In this episode, I'll walk through what agentic AI actually means in practice: instead of you asking it a question, you give it a goal, and it takes the steps to complete the work. I'll cover real examples — how agentic AI is replacing entry-level programming jobs, the tools available right now that can answer your phones, schedule appointments, and update your CRM, and what most small business owners can already do with platforms they may already be paying for like High Level and Gmail. I'll also flag where the risk lives, including OpenClaw — a tool getting massive attention but explicitly not the right starting point for non-technical owners.This is part of the AI for Small Business miniseries — a run of episodes on what AI actually changes for small business owners, what's worth using, and what's a waste of time.After 15+ years helping small businesses get more visible, I've watched plenty of owners stay stuck doing $20-an-hour work because they couldn't afford to delegate it. Agentic AI changes that math. The shift isn't whether to use AI — it's whether you're using it to answer your questions or to actually do your work.CHAPTERS:0:00 What if AI didn't just write — what if it actually worked?0:36 Quick refresher: what agentic AI is0:55 The shift from responding to doing1:06 The programmer hiring collapse — one example of agentic AI in action2:03 Email management as an entry point2:28 OpenClaw — what it is and why most owners should stay away (for now)3:37 What agentic AI needs from you: context, process, and tool access3:53 An AI system that answers calls, schedules, and updates the CRM4:55 What you can start using today5:12 Using High Level for chatbots and phone calls5:46 Why agentic AI quality is on a hockey-stick curve right now6:46 How to ask AI to recommend agentic tools for your specific weak pointsMENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:🎧 Earlier in the AI for Small Business miniseries: 3 AI Employees You Can Hire This Week🎧 Earlier in the AI for Small Business miniseries: How to Use AI Without Losing Your VoiceABOUT SMALL BUSINESS BIG VISIBILITY:A podcast for small business owners who want practical, real-world strategies to grow without burnout. Hosted by Jason McKenzie — founder of Boise Web and a 15+ year veteran helping small businesses become more visible, more profitable, and more sustainable.Episode 399🔗 https://smallbusinessbigvisibility.com/#AIForSmallBusiness #SmallBusinessOwner #SmallBusinessMarketing

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