Why Consciousness Matters in the Age of AI (with David Chalmers and Nils Gilman)

It’s extremely difficult to doubt that you’re conscious, but still nearly impossible to explain why. As AI starts to speak in a voice that feels familiar, this ancient philosophical puzzle is becoming practical. If a system can persuade us it has an inner life, what does that do to the way we decide who – or what – matters? In this episode, philosopher David Chalmers makes the case that consciousness needs to move beyond the realm of mystery. Over the past three decades, serious work on the subject has gone from fringe curiosity to an active research frontier, but the central enigma remains. As the virtual infiltrates ‘IRL,’ the line between human and machine blurs. Or maybe it never mattered at all. Find more episodes of Futurology: Subscribe to the Berggruen Institute on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Berggrueninst All Futurology Episodes: Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/futurology/id1821718921 Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/2I38HvHP6KlXrD5ysfygxk?si=XB2qyyGjT2ONMTd5XUKJAg&nd=1&dlsi=ac8cda6751834298 Mentioned in this Episode: The Conscious Mind — David Chalmers (Book, 1996) Reality+: Virtual Worlds and the Problems of Philosophy — David Chalmers (Book, 2022) The Emperor’s New Mind — Roger Penrose (Book, 1989) Neurophilosophy — — Patricia Churchland (Book, 1986) Is the Hard Problem of Consciousness Universal?— David Chalmers (Article, 2020) The Singularity: A Philosophical Analysis — David Chalmers (Article, 2010)  “What Is It Like to Be a Bat?” — Thomas Nagel (Article, 1974) The Puzzle of Conscious Experience – David Chalmers (Article, 1995) Could a Large Language Model Be Conscious? — David Chalmers (Paper, 2023) The Meta-Problem of Consciousness — David Chalmers (Paper, 2018) Does Thought Require Sensory Grounding? From Pure Thinkers to Large Language Models – David J. Chalmers (Talk, 2023) Find David Chalmers Here: Website: https://consc.net/ On X: https://x.com/davidchalmers42?lang=en Show ideas and feedback? Email: [email protected] Learn more about the Berggruen Institute  https://www.berggruen.org Follow Futurology! Instagram:   /futurologypod Twitter/X:   / futurologypod Facebook:   / berggrueninst   LinkedIn:   / berggrueninst   Bluesky: / futurologypod Credits  Executive Producers: Nicolas Berggruen, Nathan Gardels, Nils Gilman, Dawn Nakagawa, & Jason Hoch Producers: Grant Slater, Alex Gardels, & Nathalia Ramos Associate Producer: Elissa Mardiney Theme Music: Marcus Bagala Audio Engineer: Aaron Bastinelli & Kyle Scott Wilson Futurology is a production of Studio B and Wavland for the Berggruen Institute in Los Angeles, California.