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EPISODE · Oct 30, 2025 · 44 MIN

Why Curiosity and Communication are the Backbone of Facilities | Michael Bernabei

from Facility Rockstars · host Kaloutas

Michael Bernabei, Chief Facilities Engineering Manager for Life Sciences at Hobbs Brook Real Estate. Michael shares his core philosophy, "prepare for the worst and hope for the best,” illustrated by a harrowing story of an arctic chill event that tested his team's emergency preparedness. The discussion centers on the "soft skills" that create a high-performing facilities department, particularly Michael's emphasis on building a team with a "growth mindset". He explains why he values "hungry" engineers willing to learn over those who are more knowledgeable but "stuck in their ways".Michael also dives into the technical side of his role, detailing strategies for managing both legacy and modern buildings. He stresses the importance of long-term capital planning to avoid being blindsided by failing equipment. He explains how he uses a Building Management System (BMS) with "curiosity" to run trends and optimize mechanical systems, and how energy profiling software helps detect excess consumption. Ultimately, Michael’s leadership approach, from approachability to clear communication, is driven by one goal: to "drive a great tenant experience" that feels like a "five-star resort".Takeaways:Hire for Hunger: When building a team, prioritize candidates who are "hungry and willing to learn". A strong growth mindset and a 100% effort level can be more valuable long-term than existing knowledge in a candidate who is "stuck in their ways".Reframe Vendor Escorts as "Free Schooling": Encourage your team to view vendor escorts as a learning opportunity. By being a "fly on the wall," watching technicians, and asking questions, engineers can gain valuable knowledge for free.Use Hypothetical Scenarios in Interviews: To gauge a candidate's real-world problem-solving skills, put them "right in the moment" during the interview. Ask questions like, "You walk into the lobby... and there's water pouring out of the ceiling. What's your first move?".Practice Leadership Through Approachability: As a leader, ensure your team feels comfortable approaching you with questions. If they are afraid of "negative feedback" , they may not report a critical issue, choosing to "do what I think's best, even though it may not be best".Communicate for Capital Budgets: To get funding for large capital projects in legacy buildings, you must communicate issues transparently and continuously. Don't "blindside" decision-makers during budget season by suddenly dropping major expenses on them.Be Curious with Your BMS: Use your Building Management System (BMS) to run trends and analyze data. Look for inconsistencies and systems that are compensating for each other, such as a heating coil overheating air only for a chilled water valve to open and cool it back down.Aim for a "Five-Star" Experience: Set the standard for your team's service high. Michael's goal is that when tenants walk into the building, he wants it to "feel like walking into a five-star resort on vacation".Quote of the Show:"I would just much rather have someone that's less knowledgeable and hungry and willing to learn that's gonna give a hundred percent effort... than someone that's just sort of stuck in their ways and is just here to collect a paycheck..."Links:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-bernabei-0269a133a/ Website: https://hobbsbrook.com/ 

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