EPISODE · Apr 28, 2026 · 48 MIN
Why Curiosity Is Your Secret Weapon Against Anxiety and Habit Loops
from The Mindshift Podcast · host Dan Holcomb and Rhetta Rowland
Ever wondered why fighting anxiety just seems to make it worse?Josh Roman, CEO and co-founder of Mindshift Recovery, shares his journey from struggling entrepreneur to leading a movement that's changing how we think about addiction, anxiety, and mental health. Through his personal story of parenting an internationally adopted son and his own battles with anxiety, Josh reveals why traditional approaches often miss the mark—and what actually works instead.KEY TAKEAWAYSAnxiety isn't something to eliminate—it's about changing your relationship with itEveryone is addicted to something, making addiction part of the human condition rather than individual failingDigital technology designed for behavior change can be redirected to help us, not exploit usCommunity connection happens when we recognize our shared humanity through common strugglesCuriosity and non-judgmental awareness are more powerful than willpower or forcing changeThe goal isn't to stop traffic on the mental highway—it's to get off the median strip and watch from the hillNOTABLE QUOTE"Most of us spend our lives like we're standing in the median strip of a really busy highway. Traffic whizzing by on both sides, 18 wheelers, you name it. And what the mindshift method can do is help you get out of that median strip and you're sitting on the hill overlooking the highway. Traffic's still going by, still making noise, but you have just that little bit of distance and you no longer are in that fight or flight." — Josh RomanGUEST BIOJosh Roman is the CEO and co-founder of Mindshift Recovery, a serial entrepreneur who has spent over two decades building digital health products. After co-founding Mind Sciences with Dr. Judson Brewer, Josh combined his expertise in technology with neuroscience research to create accessible tools for habit change and mental health support. Connect with us:Sign up to join our live Zoom meetings 5 days a week at mindshiftrecovery.orgDownload the Mindshift Recovery App on our Website, the App Store, or Google PlayIf you'd like to be on the show or have questions for us or our guests - [email protected] more info about Dr. Judson Brewer's neuroscience research, visit mindshiftrecovery.orgThe Mindshift Podcast is part of the Mindshift Recovery community—a space where anyone can shift their relationship with behaviors that no longer serve.Music for The Mindshift Podcast is created and produced by host Dan Holcomb.Artwork is created by Giraffes And RobotsThe content shared in this podcast is for informational purposes only and is not intended to replace professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always consult a qualified healthcare provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition or treatment.
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