Why Dave Ramsey's Roth Conversion Advice Could Cost You a Fortune episode artwork

EPISODE · Oct 22, 2025 · 7 MIN

Why Dave Ramsey's Roth Conversion Advice Could Cost You a Fortune

from The Power Of Zero Show

David McKnight discusses one of the most destructive pieces of retirement advice he has ever heard: that you should never do a Roth conversion in retirement or within five years of retiring. Dave Ramsey believes you should forego doing a Roth conversion if you're within five years of retirement or are already retired – because of the so-called Five-Year Rule. The problem with this approach, according to David, is that Ramsey is misinterpreting what that rule actually means, in addition to confusing multiple rules and applying them to the wrong people. Ramsey's advice, continues David, encourages retirees to make choices that could cost them a fortune and taxes over time. The bigger issue, however, is the fact that Ramsey is focusing on the wrong thing – what he should really focus on is where tax rates are headed in the future. The current historically low tax rates won't last, as the U.S. national debt is on track to hit $63 trillion by 2035. If that were to happen, the U.S. Congress won't have the luxury of keeping tax rates low anymore. According to former Comptroller General David Walker, tax rates will likely need to double just to keep the Government solvent. A recent Penn Wharton study found that if the U.S. doesn't get its house in order by 2040, no combination of raising taxes or reducing spending will arrest the financial collapse of the nation. David warns that if you're still contributing to or sitting on a big tax-deferred nest egg like a 401(k) or IRA, you're setting yourself up to pay massive taxes in the future. Remember: 2035 is your Roth conversion deadline. David goes through his suggested strategies to avoid paying higher tax rates and potential penalties in the future. Something good to keep in mind is that if you're in the 0% tax bracket and tax rates double, two times zero is still zero… David sees Dave Ramsey as the go-to expert for get-out-of-debt advice, not retirement planning strategy.     Mentioned in this episode: David's national bestselling book: The Guru Gap: How America's Financial Gurus Are Leading You Astray, and How to Get Back on Track DavidMcKnight.com DavidMcKnightBooks.com PowerOfZero.com (free video series) @mcknightandco on Twitter  @davidcmcknight on Instagram David McKnight on YouTube Get David's Tax-free Tool Kit at taxfreetoolkit.com Dave Ramsey David Walker Penn Wharton

Episode metadata supplied by the publisher feed · Published Oct 22, 2025

Embed this episode

NOW PLAYING

Why Dave Ramsey's Roth Conversion Advice Could Cost You a Fortune

0:00 7:00

No transcript for this episode yet

We transcribe on demand. Request one and we'll notify you when it's ready — usually under 10 minutes.

No similar episodes found.

No similar podcasts found.

Frequently Asked Questions

How long is this episode of The Power Of Zero Show?

This episode is 7 minutes long.

When was this The Power Of Zero Show episode published?

This episode was published on October 22, 2025.

Can I download this The Power Of Zero Show episode?

Yes. Use the download control on the episode player to save the publisher-provided media file.
URL copied to clipboard!