EPISODE · May 12, 2025 · 59 MIN
Why Did the Secret Police Visit Clay Jackson?
from Half the Answer · host Liberal Currents
Caitlin and Trent talk to Clay Jackson, a litigator from Dallas, Texas. Clay describes the disconcerting experience of having secret police show up to his door the same day he gave boilerplate know-your-rights information to some neighbors who were concerned about being targeted by ICE. They discuss the rapidly escalating war on immigrants being waged by the Trump administration, the ways ICE and CBP try to cross boundaries of legality and privacy, and what’s next for Clay after his workplace failed to stand behind him and commit to the idea that due process is for everybody.Resources:Clay’s story in The Watch: https://radleybalko.substack.com/p/the-courage-to-be-decentClay’s update in Popular Info: https://popular.info/p/fortune-500-company-abruptly-firesClay’s Substack: https://clayjak.substack.comICE press release: https://ice.gov/100daysUncles in Crocs: https://newrepublic.com/article/193820/kristi-noem-ice-libs-tik-tokRumeysa Ozturk: https://www.npr.org/2025/05/07/g-s1-64726/federal-court-rules-student-rumeysa-ozturk-detention-vermont-challengeMohsen Madhawi: https://abcnews.go.com/US/mohsen-mahdawi-columbia-student-freed-ice-feared-citizenship/story?id=121485222Rebecca Burke: https://theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/05/i-was-a-british-tourist-trying-to-leave-america-then-i-was-detained-shackled-and-sent-to-an-immigration-detention-centreKsenia Petrova: https://pbs.org/newshour/show/russian-born-harvard-researcher-describes-detention-at-ice-facility-and-deportation-fearsDefinition of ‘criminal’: https://axios.com/2025/01/28/trump-immigrants-criminals-white-house-briefingTrump’s first-term violations: https://cnn.com/2021/09/23/politics/cbp-targeted-us-citizens-caravan-concernsAmericans disapprove of Trump’s actions: https://washingtonpost.com/immigration/2025/04/25/trump-immigration-approval-ratings-drop-poll/Trump can bring Abrego Garcia back: https://newrepublic.com/article/194815/trump-accidentally-sabotaged-case-abrego-garciaTrump “doesn’t know” if he has to follow Constitution: https://npr.org/2025/05/05/nx-s1-5386643/when-asked-if-he-needs-to-uphold-constitution-president-trump-says-i-dont-knowMarch 22 Executive Order: https://nytimes.com/2025/03/22/us/politics/trump-memo-lawyers.htmlRubio calls students “lunatics”: https://reuters.com/world/us/rubio-says-us-may-have-revoked-more-than-300-visas-2025-03-27/Justice Brandeis quote: https://charterforcompassion.org/arts/arts/online-exhibits/americans-who-tell-the-truth/appointed-and-elected-public-figures/justice-louis-brandeis.htmlThumbnail images:Border wall by Wonderline https://flickr.com/photos/71401718@N00/3370155351Scales of Justice by DonkeyHotey https://flickr.com/photos/47422005@N04/7468312536
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Caitlin and Trent talk to Clay Jackson, a litigator from Dallas, Texas. Clay describes the disconcerting experience of having secret police show up to his door the same day he gave boilerplate know-your-rights information to some neighbors who were concerned about being targeted by ICE. They discuss the rapidly escalating war on immigrants being waged by the Trump administration, the ways ICE and CBP try to cross boundaries of legality and privacy, and what’s next for Clay after his workplace failed to stand behind him and commit to the idea that due process is for everybody.Resources:Clay’s story in The Watch: https://radleybalko.substack.com/p/the-courage-to-be-decentClay’s update in Popular Info: https://popular.info/p/fortune-500-company-abruptly-firesClay’s Substack: https://clayjak.substack.comICE press release: https://ice.gov/100daysUncles in Crocs: https://newrepublic.com/article/193820/kristi-noem-ice-libs-tik-tokRumeysa Ozturk: https://www.npr.org/2025/05/07/g-s1-64726/federal-court-rules-student-rumeysa-ozturk-detention-vermont-challengeMohsen Madhawi: https://abcnews.go.com/US/mohsen-mahdawi-columbia-student-freed-ice-feared-citizenship/story?id=121485222Rebecca Burke: https://theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/05/i-was-a-british-tourist-trying-to-leave-america-then-i-was-detained-shackled-and-sent-to-an-immigration-detention-centreKsenia Petrova: https://pbs.org/newshour/show/russian-born-harvard-researcher-describes-detention-at-ice-facility-and-deportation-fearsDefinition of ‘criminal’: https://axios.com/2025/01/28/trump-immigrants-criminals-white-house-briefingTrump’s first-term violations: https://cnn.com/2021/09/23/politics/cbp-targeted-us-citizens-caravan-concernsAmericans disapprove of Trump’s actions: https://washingtonpost.com/immigration/2025/04/25/trump-immigration-approval-ratings-drop-poll/Trump can bring Abrego Garcia back: https://newrepublic.com/article/194815/trump-accidentally-sabotaged-case-abrego-garciaTrump “doesn’t know” if he has to follow Constitution: https://npr.org/2025/05/05/nx-s1-5386643/when-asked-if-he-needs-to-uphold-constitution-president-trump-says-i-dont-knowMarch 22 Executive Order: https://nytimes.com/2025/03/22/us/politics/trump-memo-lawyers.htmlRubio calls students “lunatics”: https://reuters.com/world/us/rubio-says-us-may-have-revoked-more-than-300-visas-2025-03-27/Justice Brandeis quote: https://charterforcompassion.org/arts/arts/online-exhibits/americans-who-tell-the-truth/appointed-and-elected-public-figures/justice-louis-brandeis.htmlThumbnail images:Border wall by Wonderline https://flickr.com/photos/71401718@N00/3370155351Scales of Justice by DonkeyHotey https://flickr.com/photos/47422005@N04/7468312536
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