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Aug 18, 2026 3 hr 10 min

Why Encryption Fails Under Pressure with Josh Thomas

from The Jason Cavness Experience Hosted by Jason Cavness

The strongest encryption in the world cannot protect you when someone can force you to unlock your phone. Josh Thomas, founder of Deniable, explains why conventional mobile security ignores coercion and how plausible deniability changes the equation. He also shares a hard-earned rule for builders: decide what would make you kill a project before your identity, money, and emotions become attached to it. We also discuss: • Why institutions often capture problems instead of solving them • How incentives shape behavior inside nonprofits and the United Nations • Why every startup should establish a kill metric • Building technology for high-risk environments • What Josh learned traveling through North Korea and Central Asia • Raising globally curious children • Why people across borders have more in common than we assume Josh's links: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshthom/ Deniable: https://deniable.io Karakoram: https://karakoram.co Jason links: https://linktr.ee/jasoncavness

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