EPISODE · Nov 13, 2025 · 4 MIN
AI Is Becoming A Franz Kafka Novel
from Thinking On Paper · host Mark Fielding and Jeremy Gilbertson
Carissa Veliz joins us again to speak about AI Ethics, a mirage straight from a Kafka novel. Questions of justice, principles and the rule of law are incompatible with machine learning. Machine learning is statistical analysis of data that outputs responses human beings are likely to find attractive, not true or ethical. That is not a good way to design ethics.Carissa Veliz joins Makr & Jeremy to Think On Paper. She outlines how AI depends on surveillance and statistical pattern-matching that can’t meet the basic standards of a democracy: clear rules and the ability to appeal a decision.AI thinking clashes with the foundations of a liberal democracy: public rules, transparency, and the right to challenge decisions that shape your life.We cover:😀 Why machine-learning decisions are opaque😀 Why that conflicts with the rule of law😀 How surveillance sits beneath modern AI systemsPlease enjoy the show.Cheers, Mark & JeremyOther ways to connect with us:Listen to every podcastFollow us on InstagramFollow us on XFollow Mark on LinkedInFollow Jeremy on LinkedInRead our SubstackEmail: [email protected]
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Carissa Veliz joins us again to speak about AI Ethics, a mirage straight from a Kafka novel. Questions of justice, principles and the rule of law are incompatible with machine learning. Machine learning is statistical analysis of data that outputs responses human beings are likely to find attractive, not true or ethical. That is not a good way to design ethics.Carissa Veliz joins Makr & Jeremy to Think On Paper. She outlines how AI depends on surveillance and statistical pattern-matching that can’t meet the basic standards of a democracy: clear rules and the ability to appeal a decision.AI thinking clashes with the foundations of a liberal democracy: public rules, transparency, and the right to challenge decisions that shape your life.We cover:😀 Why machine-learning decisions are opaque😀 Why that conflicts with the rule of law😀 How surveillance sits beneath modern AI systemsPlease enjoy the show.Cheers, Mark & JeremyOther ways to connect with us:Listen to every podcastFollow us on InstagramFollow us on XFollow Mark on LinkedInFollow Jeremy on LinkedInRead our SubstackEmail: [email protected]
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