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EPISODE · Oct 21, 2025 · 35 MIN

Why Grid Power Can't Save AI Data Centers (Microgrids Can)

from Clean Power Hour · host Tim Montague, John Weaver

#EP314Today on the Clean Power Hour, Michael Stadler, CTO of Xendee, reveals why the utility grid cannot support the AI data center boom and how microgrids provide the only viable path forward. Michael began researching microgrid optimization at Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (LBNL) in 2002, spending over 20 years developing the technology before co-founding Xendee in 2018 with CEO Adib Naslé (see Ep 209). Xendee provides design and optimization software for complex microgrids, helping developers determine the right mix of technologies, optimal sizing, economic returns, and control strategies. In this episode, Michael breaks down the economics, technologies, and design strategies powering the next generation of energy infrastructure. What You'll Learn:Why data centers can't rely on grid power - Interconnection queues might take 5-10 years, making microgrids the only realistic option for gigawatt-scale facilitiesThe optimal technology mix for data centers - Combined heat and power systems, batteries, and solar working together to provide 24/7 reliable powerHow Xendee's platform works - Input your power needs and geography, get optimal sizing for generators, batteries, and renewables plus control strategiesCHP systems as the secret weapon - Natural gas generators provide electricity while waste heat powers absorption chillers for cooling, cutting demand dramaticallyEnergy as a Service models - Third parties install and operate microgrids, selling power to data centers under long-term contractsMicrogrids as fluid systems - Start with available technology now, upgrade over time as new solutions like small modular reactors become viableMarket dynamics shifting fast - Projects moving from simple PV+battery to complex multi-technology systems requiring sophisticated designUS leading Europe in microgrids - Behind-the-meter systems reduce grid burden, unlike European virtual power plants that strain infrastructureYou can find Michael Stadler here:LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/stadlermichael/Website: xendee.com/ Support the showConnect with Tim  Clean Power Hour  Clean Power Hour on YouTubeTim on TwitterTim on LinkedIn Email [email protected] Review Clean Power Hour on Apple PodcastsThe Clean Power Hour is produced by the Clean Power Consulting Group and created by Tim Montague. Contact us by email:  [email protected] sponsors who share our mission to speed the energy transition are invited to check out https://www.cleanpowerhour.com/support/The Clean Power Hour is brought to you by CPS America, maker of North America’s number one 3-phase string inverter, with over 6GW shipped in the US. With a focus on commercial and utility-scale solar and energy storage, the company partners with customers to provide unparalleled performance and service. The CPS America product lineup includes 3-phase string inverters from 25kW to 275kW, exceptional data communication and controls, and energy storage solutions designed for seamless integration with CPS America systems.  Learn more at www.chintpowersystems.com

#EP314 Today on the Clean Power Hour, Michael Stadler, CTO of Xendee, reveals why the utility grid cannot support the AI data center boom and how microgrids provide the only viable path forward. Michael began researching microgrid optimization at Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (LBNL) in 2002, spending over 20 years developing the technology before co-founding Xendee in 2018 with CEO Adib Naslé (see Ep 209). Xendee provides design and optimization software for complex microgrids, ...

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