EPISODE · Dec 11, 2025 · 1H 2M
Why GTM Engineering is the Future | When to Hire Your First GTM Engineer | How to Treat GTM Like a Product | How Clay Scaled from PLG to Enterprise | Automate the Manual, Never the Important with Yash Tekriwal, Head of Education at Clay
from focal podcast · host Pascal Unger
Clay pioneered GTM engineering and went from $1M to $100M in ARR in 2 years. I talked to the person who invented the role of GTM Engineer at Clay.Yash Tekriwal, Clay's first GTM engineer - back when the $3B company was still figuring out what that even meant.What started as one person drowning in too many jobs (RevOps + Sales + BDR + data analyst) has since become a new category that's now reshaping how startups think about go-to-market.You’ll learn:Why RevOps is "maintenance" but GTM engineering is a growth leverThe skills that define a great GTM engineer today (hint: it involves vibe coding)What "treating go-to-market like a product" actually looks like in practiceTwo org models for GTM engineering teams - and which to start with"Automate the manual, but don't automate the important"In Today's Episode We Discuss:01:23 - The origin story of GTM engineering at Clay and why the term is polarizing05:02 - GTM engineer vs RevOps: maintenance function versus growth lever07:31 - Treating go-to-market like a product team, not an individual sport10:42 - Three experiments every GTM team should run on inbound and outbound15:24 - The essential GTM tech stack: CRM, enrichment, sequencing, and what actually matters19:08 - Tools founders should consider when getting started—and the automation trap to avoid22:12 - Zero to $1M: be thrifty on tools and process information manually25:38 - What to look for in your first GTM engineering hire (hint: it's not technical skills)28:43 - Signals that you need to hire a GTM engineer for outbound vs inbound motions31:45 - Scaling past $10M: specialize fast and the hyperscaler dilemma36:01 - Two org models for GTM engineering: centralized hit team vs embedded engineers40:22 - The ideal GTM engineer profile: tinkerers, not traditional engineers43:33 - Why engineers are not the ideal candidates for GTM engineering roles45:19 - Can salespeople become great GTM engineers? The sales hacker archetype47:26 - Resources to learn GTM engineering: Clay University, substacks, YouTube channels, and agencies51:00 - Top three things founders must know about GTM engineering at any stage52:16 - The most creative GTM engineering builds: satellite imagery, hospital capacity, and custom memes56:24 - Personal lessons from scaling at Clay: ego death, pivoting, and balancing maintenance with big bets59:42 - The one thing Yash would change: stop oscillating and let problems become obvious
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