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EPISODE · Feb 12, 2026 · 32 MIN

Why Mature Love is Actually Conditional (And Why That's Safer)

from Together- The Sacred We · host Michael Elliott and Courtney Wren

Most of us have been told that unconditional love is the highest expression of a spiritual relationship. But what if that belief is actually killing your chance at true intimacy?In this episode, Mike and Courtney challenge the cultural narrative around unconditional love and propose something radical: that mature, evolutionary love is actually conditional. And here's what they discovered—this understanding creates MORE love, not less.If you've been feeling drained, unseen, or losing yourself in the name of love, this episode is for you.What You'll Learn:Why unconditional love often masks neglect, enabling, and soul deathThe difference between love as a feeling vs. love as an actionHow the lack of conditions actually makes us MORE selfish and less lovingThe moment Mike realized unconditional love was hurting his relationshipHow "fierce love" and clear conditions transformed their partnershipWhy boundaries and conditions are actually deeply lovingHow to identify YOUR conditions for feeling truly lovedReal examples: parenting, marriage, and supporting clients through this shiftKey Moment: Mike shares the powerful realization of honoring his own inner child and the vow he made to never abandon his own needs for love again—and how this actually deepened intimacy with Courtney.For Couples: If you're ready to move from "unconditional acceptance" to "conditional devotion," join Mike and Courtney's flagship program, Evolutionary Relationship: The Initiation. Early bird pricing available until February 19th—$2,000 savings. https://www.sacredrelating.com/Timestamps:0:01 The problem with unconditional love2:11 Introducing the radical idea: love is conditional5:01 Bell Hooks changed everything: "Love is an action"7:04 Why this matters in relationships11:47 The story: How Mike's unconditional love was actually hurting them14:47 Courtney's fierce love and what shifted15:49 The river needs banks: why conditions create safety17:34 Parenting example: How boundaries created more love19:40 Client example: How clarity on conditions changed everything20:28 Gordon Neufeld's insight: No boundaries = neglect21:52 True mature love has limits24:05 The paradox: Love as action + unconditional self-love27:42 Why knowing your conditions attracts the right partner28:27 The Evolutionary Relationship: The Initiation programIf you are feeling the pull to join  our couples program Evolutionary Relationship- the Initiation, but also have some specific questions, or want to know more, let's hop on a no- pressure call to feel into it together so that you and your partner can get clear on what the program is and whether it's a good fit for you. Book Your Call → https://calendly.com/transform-rxg/evolutionary-relationship-discovery-call🎁 Free Gift: Click here to grab your FREE Masculine & Feminine Essence resource  https://www.sacredrelating.com/offers/tnF5MFbN/checkout💛 Work with Mike & Courtney 2:2 → https://www.sacredrelating.com/sacred-relating-couplesWork with Mike → https://www.itsmikeelliott.com/coachingWork with Courtney → https://www.courtneywren.com/rebirth📺Subscribe to our YouTube Channel → https://www.youtube.com/@thetogetherpodcast🏹Join the Initiated Man Waitlist→ https://www.itsmikeelliott.com/initiated-man-waitlist💎 Join the Waitlist for The Holy Mama Membership →https://www.courtneywren.com/holymamawaitlistDonation link 👇🙏🏼❤️🌏⁠https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=VWHABJWZ749X4⁠Email:⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠Website:⁠⁠www.itsmikeelliott.com⁠⁠www.sacredrelaring.comwww.courtneywren.comInstagram:@[email protected] MUSHROOM PRODUCTS: https://mindfulmeds.io/Promo Code: TOGETHERTHE SKIN DEEP CARDS: ⁠https://shop.theskindeep.com/collections/all⁠Promo Code: Together15

Most of us have been told that unconditional love is the highest expression of a spiritual relationship. But what if that belief is actually killing your chance at true intimacy?In this episode, Mike and Courtney challenge the cultural narrative around unconditional love and propose something radical: that mature, evolutionary love is actually conditional. And here's what they discovered—this understanding creates MORE love, not less.If you've been feeling drained, unseen, or losing yourself in the name of love, this episode is for you.What You'll Learn:Why unconditional love often masks neglect, enabling, and soul deathThe difference between love as a feeling vs. love as an actionHow the lack of conditions actually makes us MORE selfish and less lovingThe moment Mike realized unconditional love was hurting his relationshipHow "fierce love" and clear conditions transformed their partnershipWhy boundaries and conditions are actually deeply lovingHow to identify YOUR conditions for feeling truly lovedReal examples: parenting, marriage, and supporting clients through this shiftKey Moment: Mike shares the powerful realization of honoring his own inner child and the vow he made to never abandon his own needs for love again—and how this actually deepened intimacy with Courtney.For Couples: If you're ready to move from "unconditional acceptance" to "conditional devotion," join Mike and Courtney's flagship program, Evolutionary Relationship: The Initiation. Early bird pricing available until February 19th—$2,000 savings. https://www.sacredrelating.com/Timestamps:0:01 The problem with unconditional love2:11 Introducing the radical idea: love is conditional5:01 Bell Hooks changed everything: "Love is an action"7:04 Why this matters in relationships11:47 The story: How Mike's unconditional love was actually hurting them14:47 Courtney's fierce love and what shifted15:49 The river needs banks: why conditions create safety17:34 Parenting example: How boundaries created more love19:40 Client example: How clarity on conditions changed everything20:28 Gordon Neufeld's insight: No boundaries = neglect21:52 True mature love has limits24:05 The paradox: Love as action + unconditional self-love27:42 Why knowing your conditions attracts the right partner28:27 The Evolutionary Relationship: The Initiation programIf you are feeling the pull to join  our couples program Evolutionary Relationship- the Initiation, but also have some specific questions, or want to know more, let's hop on a no- pressure call to feel into it together so that you and your partner can get clear on what the program is and whether it's a good fit for you. Book Your Call → https://calendly.com/transform-rxg/evolutionary-relationship-discovery-call🎁 Free Gift: Click here to grab your FREE Masculine & Feminine Essence resource  https://www.sacredrelating.com/offers/tnF5MFbN/checkout💛 Work with Mike & Courtney 2:2 → https://www.sacredrelating.com/sacred-relating-couplesWork with Mike → https://www.itsmikeelliott.com/coachingWork with Courtney → https://www.courtneywren.com/rebirth📺Subscribe to our YouTube Channel → https://www.youtube.com/@thetogetherpodcast🏹Join the Initiated Man Waitlist→ https://www.itsmikeelliott.com/initiated-man-waitlist💎 Join the Waitlist for The Holy Mama Membership →https://www.courtneywren.com/holymamawaitlistDonation link 👇🙏🏼❤️🌏⁠https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=VWHABJWZ749X4⁠Email:⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠Website:⁠⁠www.itsmikeelliott.com⁠⁠www.sacredrelaring.comwww.courtneywren.comInstagram:@[email protected] MUSHROOM PRODUCTS: https://mindfulmeds.io/Promo Code: TOGETHERTHE SKIN DEEP CARDS: ⁠https://shop.theskindeep.com/collections/all⁠Promo Code: Together15

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