Why Mobile Operators Hold The Keys To Fraud-Proof Sign‑Ins episode artwork

EPISODE · Dec 1, 2025 · 25 MIN

Why Mobile Operators Hold The Keys To Fraud-Proof Sign‑Ins

from What's Up with Tech? · host Evan Kirstel

Interested in being a guest? Email us at [email protected] juggling one-time codes and clunky authenticator apps. We sit down with Eddie DeCurtis, CEO and co-founder of Shush, to unpack how carriers can quietly verify users in milliseconds using standards-driven, privacy-guarded data. Think number-to-IP matching, SIM swap checks, and location signals—all done behind the scenes so sign-ins feel almost invisible while fraud defenses tighten.Eddie explains why the real barrier hasn’t been demand from banks and brands, but supply from mobile operators. His team built a platform that bundles three hard problems—API exposure, network integration, and business operations—so carriers can go live fast without buying new equipment or hiring armies of consultants. A recent deployment with Dito in the Philippines moved from signature to launch in under 90 days, supporting a wide set of Camara APIs and 40+ endpoints that future‑proof brand integrations.We also cover the big turn away from SMS OTP. Prices swing, delivery fails, and attackers intercept. Network-based authentication changes the math with “intrinsic data” that supports multiple checks per user journey—verify number, confirm no recent SIM swap, and only then grant access. That creates higher value for brands and a durable revenue stream for carriers. Consent and compliance get full treatment too: how US CPNI rules enable fraud use cases, why EU Recital 47 differs, and where countries like Poland apply stricter limits. The practical answer is market-specific consent modules baked into the platform.If you’re building login flows, running fraud operations, or operating a mobile network, this episode maps the path from legacy OTP to carrier-grade security that users barely notice. Subscribe for more deep dives, share this with a teammate who owns authentication, and leave a quick review to help others discover the show.Everyday AI: Your daily guide to grown with Generative AICan't keep up with AI? We've got you. Everyday AI helps you keep up and get ahead.Listen on: Apple Podcasts   SpotifySupport the showMore at https://linktr.ee/EvanKirstel

Episode metadata supplied by the publisher feed · Published Dec 1, 2025

Embed this episode

Interested in being a guest? Email us at [email protected] Stop juggling one-time codes and clunky authenticator apps. We sit down with Eddie DeCurtis, CEO and co-founder of Shush, to unpack how carriers can quietly verify users in milliseconds using standards-driven, privacy-guarded data. Think number-to-IP matching, SIM swap checks, and location signals—all done behind the scenes so sign-ins feel almost invisible while fraud defenses tighten. Eddie explains why the real barrier hasn’t ...

Distinct summary based on available episode metadata or transcript content.

NOW PLAYING

Why Mobile Operators Hold The Keys To Fraud-Proof Sign‑Ins

0:00 25:14

No transcript for this episode yet

We transcribe on demand. Request one and we'll notify you when it's ready — usually under 10 minutes.

No similar episodes found.

No similar podcasts found.

Frequently Asked Questions

How long is this episode of What's Up with Tech??

This episode is 25 minutes long.

When was this What's Up with Tech? episode published?

This episode was published on December 1, 2025.

Is there a transcript available for this episode?

Yes, a full transcript is available for this episode. You can read the complete transcript on the episode page.

Can I download this What's Up with Tech? episode?

Yes. Use the download control on the episode player to save the publisher-provided media file.
URL copied to clipboard!