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EPISODE · Sep 24, 2026 · 1H 1M

Why Money Fights Are Really About Avoidance

from The Sacred We · host Michael Elliott and Courtney Wren

Most couples don’t fight about money. They avoid it until it leaks into resentment, sex, and every little decision. Jenn Pike and Chris Borsellino were in overdraft as a lifestyle — two kids, two businesses, ships passing — until they put every receipt in a basket and made money neutral. This is the conversation that shows how. In this episode of The Sacred We, Mike Elliott and Courtney Wren-Mabbutt sit with Jenn Pike and Chris Borsellino — partners in life, business, and a decades-long experiment in making money safe to talk about. They tell the real arc: overdraft as normal, Domino’s totals that shocked them, mason jars and a receipts basket, selling the truck for a Camry when pride said otherwise, and the moment looking at the numbers together changed their course. Along the way they name upper limiting when money finally arrives, pass-the-baton partnership, and the daily walks that became marriage therapy. The teaching under the stories is simple and hard: avoidance is the fight. Structure creates flow. Money gets neutral when you turn toward it together instead of making each other wrong. Guest resources: Jenn Pike / The Simplicity Project: https://jennpike.com/ Jenn on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jennpike/ Chris Borsellino on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chrisborsellino/ Finance discovery with Chris: https://calendly.com/chrisborsellino/60-finance-meeting About Jenn & Chris: Jenn Pike is a functional diagnostic nutritionist, founder of The Simplicity Project, and a longtime voice for women’s health, hormones, and embodied living. Chris Borsellino is a former custom carpenter turned financial advisor who helps families get clear on money without shame. Together they model what it looks like to build health and wealth as a shared practice. Connect With Us: The 2:2 Couples Container — private, intensive couples work with Mike & Courtney: https://www.thesacredwe.com/2-2-container-details Sign up for our couples list: https://www.thesacredwe.com Bringing the Oracle to Him: https://www.courtneywren.com/bring-your-oracle-to-him Rebirth 1:1 with Courtney: https://www.courtneywren.com/containers Work with Mike: https://www.itsmikeelliott.com/coaching Email: [email protected] | [email protected] Instagram: @mikeelliott.relating | @courtneywren.relating

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