Why Most Pastors Burn Out and How to Lead From Overflow | Andrew Matrone

In this episode of Conversations, I sit down with Andrew Matrone to discuss pastoral burnout, ministry leadership, marriage, and sustainable health in church leadership. Andrew shares his transition after 13 years at Red Rocks Church, a season of uncertainty, deleting social media for a year, and rebuilding rhythms of rest and restoration before stepping into a new pastoral role in Florida. We discuss the Barna statistic that only 7% of pastors under 45 say they are flourishing and why traditional ministry models often neglect emotional, physical, and relational health. This conversation explores boundaries in ministry, the difference between calling and career, leading your home before leading your church, and how pastors can build health in body, mind, and spirit. Andrew also shares practical encouragement for young pastors, including small consistent changes that create long-term sustainability. If you are a pastor, church leader, ministry couple, or someone navigating leadership burnout, this episode will help you rethink rest, redefine success, and learn how to lead from overflow rather than depletion. 👉 Connect with Andrew: Instagram: @andrewmatrone_ The Fit Pastor Co: @thefitpastorco 📝 Weekly Newsletter I send a free weekly newsletter where I share honest thoughts on leadership, ministry, faith, and building something that actually lasts. Subscribe here: https://conversations-with-josh-andrew.beehiiv.com/ 🎙️ Editing & Production I use Descript to edit and produce this podcast. It makes audio and video editing simple, fast, and clean. 👉 https://descript.cello.so/5I4MealWKa2 🔗 Connect with Josh Andrew Instagram: @joshnandrew TikTok: @joshnandrew Website: https://joshandrew.orgMore links: https://linktr.ee/Joshnandrew