EPISODE · Oct 30, 2025 · 31 MIN
Why Myles Garrett isn’t going anywhere + the Browns’ path forward:
from Orange and Brown Talk: Cleveland Browns Podcast · host Cleveland.com - Advance Local
On Thursday’s edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start with the rumor that has taken over the sports talk machine: Could the Browns trade Myles Garrett? Mary Kay definitively shuts down the speculation, explaining why there is a "zero percent chance" of it happening before the trade deadline. They break down the massive financial dead cap hit that makes any potential deal a non-starter and discuss why the idea was ludicrous from the beginning. From there, the conversation pivots to the bigger picture for the 2 -6 Browns. Is a full-scale rebuild the answer? The hosts discuss why a "tank" is not a viable option in the NFL and how the team is currently straddling two timelines, trying to win with a veteran core while simultaneously building a new foundation with a promising rookie class featuring players like Quinshon Judkins, Mason Graham and Carson Schwesinger. Ultimately, the path forward hinges on one position: quarterback. They explore the immense challenge of identifying and developing a franchise QB, the importance of having a plan and sticking to it and how the current offensive woes, from the quarterback play to the receiving corps, impact the team's ability to evaluate their young talent. It's a deep dive into the state of the Browns and what comes next. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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On Thursday’s edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start with the rumor that has taken over the sports talk machine: Could the Browns trade Myles Garrett? Mary Kay definitively shuts down the speculation, explaining why there is a "zero percent chance" of it happening before the trade deadline. They break down the massive financial dead cap hit that makes any potential deal a non-starter and discuss why the idea was ludicrous from the beginning. From there, the conversation pivots to the bigger picture for the 2 -6 Browns. Is a full-scale rebuild the answer? The hosts discuss why a "tank" is not a viable option in the NFL and how the team is currently straddling two timelines, trying to win with a veteran core while simultaneously building a new foundation with a promising rookie class featuring players like Quinshon Judkins, Mason Graham and Carson Schwesinger. Ultimately, the path forward hinges on one position: quarterback. They explore the immense challenge of identifying and developing a franchise QB, the importance of having a plan and sticking to it and how the current offensive woes, from the quarterback play to the receiving corps, impact the team's ability to evaluate their young talent. It's a deep dive into the state of the Browns and what comes next. Follow us: On X: https://x.com/orangebrowntalk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ClevelandBrownsonclevelandcom Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/orangeandbrowntalk/ Music credits: Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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