EPISODE · May 30, 2025 · 15 MIN
Why Nobody Wants to Work at Church Anymore
from Conversations with Josh Andrew · host Josh Andrew
Let’s talk about it — why don’t people want to work at church anymore? In this episode of Conversations, I break down the real reasons behind the growing disinterest in vocational ministry — especially among Gen Z and millennials. Spoiler: it’s not a passion problem, it’s a perception problem. From burnout and over-programming to outdated staffing models and reactive leadership, I unpack what’s pushing people away — and how we can lead differently. You’ll learn: What Barna’s data says about Gen Z and ministry in 2025 The 3 culture shifts that are driving staff turnover Why influence and impact matter more than org charts How to recruit leaders with vision, not just fill roles What churches must do to attract, build, and keep high-capacity people Connect with me on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/joshnandrew TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@joshnandrew Website: https://joshandrew.org If you’re a church leader or team builder, this episode will challenge how you think about leadership, recruitment, and calling in today’s world.
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Let’s talk about it — why don’t people want to work at church anymore? In this episode of Conversations, I break down the real reasons behind the growing disinterest in vocational ministry — especially among Gen Z and millennials. Spoiler: it’s not a passion problem, it’s a perception problem. From burnout and over-programming to outdated staffing models and reactive leadership, I unpack what’s pushing people away — and how we can lead differently. You’ll learn: What Barna’s data says about Gen Z and ministry in 2025 The 3 culture shifts that are driving staff turnover Why influence and impact matter more than org charts How to recruit leaders with vision, not just fill roles What churches must do to attract, build, and keep high-capacity people Connect with me on social media: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/joshnandrew TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@joshnandrew Website: https://joshandrew.org If you’re a church leader or team builder, this episode will challenge how you think about leadership, recruitment, and calling in today’s world.
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