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EPISODE · Mar 18, 2026 · 1H 15M

Why opting out of AI is actually harming your future self with Kate Minogue

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You can't opt out of AI. It's already in your Uber, your Netflix, your news feed. So the real question is: do you want to understand it, or let someone else decide how it works for you?Kate Minogue (ex-Meta, AI advisor, founder of The AI Leadership Lab) joins us to talk incentives, algorithms, user power, and why checking out of AI is the worst thing you can do right now.SHOW NOTESAbout the GuestKate Minogue is an AI advisor and fractional product leader with 6 years at Meta and a background spanning data science, gaming, fintech, and banking. She's passionate about helping non-technical business leaders get confident with AI, and recently launched The AI Leadership Lab, a course designed to do exactly that. Find Kate on LinkedIn or at kate-minogue.com.In This EpisodeThe Uber driver who checked out of AI (and why that's not actually possible)Netflix vs TikTok: same technology, completely different incentivesWhy understanding incentives is the key to trusting (or not trusting) AIAI hallucinations explained: what Kate told her sister that made her stop being scaredHow your data actually shapes the AI products being builtMisinformation, deepfakes, and AI-generated content: which fears are warrantedWhy CEOs and graduates are behaving the same way around AI right nowThe "safe zones" framework for AI use in organisationsHow users (yes, you) can influence how AI developsUS vs Europe: deregulation vs responsible AI as competitive advantageWhat teams actually want from leaders in the age of AI (it's not expertise)"Do it because the men are doing it and they are not apologising for it"Mentioned in This EpisodeThe AI Leadership Lab (Kate's course for non-technical business leaders)Max Tegmark (AI safety researcher, Web Summit talk)DeepSeek (Chinese AI lab)Sora (OpenAI's image/video generation app)EU AI Act and GDPRBoxer CEO memo ("AI is for you, not to you")Women in Africa building their own AI models (Web Summit)

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