Why Reluctant Leaders Make the Strongest Guides // Willa Kane and Sally Breedlove

In this episode, we sit down with Sally Breedlove and Willa Kane, two authors of Eighth Day Prayers. Together we explore how listening to God first transforms our leadership, our relationships, and our daily rhythms. From reluctant leadership to scripture-soaked prayer, Sally and Willa share how anchoring ourselves in God’s Word and the rhythms of the church calendar can create margin, cultivate hope, and deepen our joy. This is a conversation about slowing down, making space for God’s voice, and discovering the gift of community in prayer.Key TakeawaysListen first, speak second: Lasting leadership begins by listening to God before we speak or act.Reluctant leaders bring strength: Those who never sought influence often carry a unique humility and integrity.Scripture-soaked prayer sustains us: Simple, accessible rhythms of prayer keep us grounded in truth and hope.The church calendar roots our lives: Living by God’s seasons—Advent, Lent, Easter, and beyond—offers balance and perspective in a busy world.Saying no is leadership too: Boundaries create the space for faithful, Spirit-led influence.Collaboration is a gift: When pride is set aside, shared work can become joy-filled and deeply fruitful.Beauty belongs in faith: Prayer practices that are both true and beautiful invite us—and others—into God’s presence.Website: eighthdayprayers.orgInstagram: @eighthdayprayersFacebook: Eighth Day Prayers========================================================We LOVE that you’ve decided to join us this week for the Living Wholehearted Podcast. We hope you enjoyed the conversation, tips, and resources to help you transform every relationship that matters most to you. If you think this will help someone you know, make sure you send it their way or share on socials. Tag us @living_wholehearted and @terramattson! Don't forget to FOLLOW/SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss an episode and help spread the word by leaving us some stars on a review. Thanks for partnering with us to help more leaders, just like you, who want to live and lead with integrity at home, work and in the community. Go to livingwholehearted.com and sign up to receive our free leadership tips and updates delivered to you in our monthly newsletter. And, if you’re a girl mom, check out mycourageousgirls.com.  Until next time, be the leader you would follow! Grateful for you,Jeff & Terra To connect with Jeff & Terra Mattson and Living Wholehearted, go to: INSTAGRAM@TerraMattson@Living_Wholehearted@MyCourageousGirls FACEBOOK@WeAreLivingWholehearted@MyCourageousGirls WEBSITESLivingWholehearted.comTerraMattson.com MyCourageousGirls.com RESOURCESShrinking the Integrity Gap Shrinking the Integrity Gap e-Course Courageous: Being Daughters Rooted in GraceDear Mattsons Helping Moms Raise Confident Daughters