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EPISODE · Dec 17, 2025 · 56 MIN

Why Seabridge Matters So Much to Nation's Royalty

from In it to Win it · host Steve Barton

Join me for Rick Rule's Golden Triangle Bootcamp here:👉 https://lumaconference.com/bootcamp-partner/?via=inittowinit   Derrick Pattenden, CIO of Nations Royalty, frames the discussion around a structural gap in the mining sector: Indigenous communities often participate at the project level but rarely capture diversified, long-duration value. He outlines how Nations Royalty was built to solve this problem by pooling royalty interests, reducing single-asset risk, and converting episodic mine revenue into scalable, enduring cash flow. Pattenden emphasizes that the market continues to underestimate the strategic leverage Indigenous groups bring to negotiations, permitting, and long-term project certainty, advantages that directly translate into stronger royalty economics. The conversation then moves to Nations Royalty's asset base and financial positioning, with Pattenden walking through key projects including Brucejack, Premier and Red Mountain, Kitsault, and Seabridge Gold's KSM deposit. He explains how BC mineral tax–linked royalties provide asymmetric upside as metal prices rise, while maintaining downside protection. Particular attention is given to KSM as a world-class, permitted asset where development optionality could unlock significant future value. Pattenden closes by addressing the broader opportunity: enabling Indigenous Nations to build sustainable revenue streams through collaboration and royalty aggregation, while offering investors exposure to high-quality mining assets with a differentiated social and economic foundation.   Learn More About Nation's Royalty: https://nationsroyalty.ca/   Join me for Rick Rule's Golden Triangle Bootcamp here:👉 https://lumaconference.com/bootcamp-partner/?via=inittowinit   Key Market Insights This Week: ✅ Derrick Pattenden highlights a structural mispricing of Indigenous-linked mining royalties ✅ Nations Royalty focuses on pooling royalties to reduce single-asset risk ✅ Indigenous groups provide strategic advantages in permitting and project certainty ✅ Royalty aggregation creates long-duration, scalable cash flow opportunities ✅ BC mineral tax–linked royalties offer asymmetric upside with price strength ✅ Brucejack provides current cash flow with improving outlook ✅ Premier and Red Mountain represent near-term restart optionality ✅ Kitsault adds long-dated upside through a sliding-scale NSR royalty ✅ Seabridge's KSM stands out as a world-class, permitted development catalyst ✅ Sustainable Indigenous revenue models align community value with investor returns   Tools for Success that I Love and find Helpful / Affiliates: Rule Classroom (Free) Rule Classroom Plus (2 Free Months) TradingView (Free) Lobo's Weekly Recap (Free) Uranium Insider Justin Huhn Newsletter   Chapters: 00:00 Nations Royalty Overview  01:44 Nations Royalty Leadership & Team  04:06 Indigenous Mining Royalty Model  08:34 Ownership & Share Structure  11:31 Brucejack Mine Overview  13:10 Cash Runway & Funding Strategy  14:23 Premier & Red Mountain Projects  17:31 Gold vs Silver Revenue Breakdown  20:09 Seabridge Gold & KSM Deposit  22:35 BC Mineral Tax Royalty Explained  26:42 Nations Royalty as KSM Proxy  30:52 Growth Strategy & Project Pipeline  32:49 Structuring Indigenous Royalties  35:55 Partnering With Indigenous Groups  41:24 Issuing Shares for New Royalties  43:28 KSM Buyout Possibilities  46:10 Stock Listings & Tickers  48:30 NAV vs Market Cap Discussion  50:56 Biggest Open Question for the Company  55:13 How to Contact Nations Royalty   DISCLAIMER: I am not a financial advisor. This is not financial advice. I only express my opinion based on my experience, and your experience may be different. These videos are for educational and motivational purposes only. Investing of any kind involves risk. Do your own due diligence. Every investment and bet comes with the risk that your capital could go to zero. WHAT I DO: I spread out my investments. It's not all on one thing. For every bet that I make, I devote one hour of study per month to that investment. I keep the number of bets to what I can feasibly study. AFFILIATE DISCLOSURE: Some of the links on this channel are affiliate links, meaning, at NO additional cost to you, the show may earn a commission if you click through and make a purchase and/or subscribe. However, this does not impact my opinion. I recommend them because they are helpful and useful, not because I am looking for the small commission. Thank you for using the links.   #DerrickPattenden #NationsRoyalty #Indigenous #MiningRoyalties #Gold #Silver #Copper #Uranium #Oil #NaturalGas #Coal #Platinum #Nickel #Bitcoin #SP500 #SteveBarton #InItToWinIt

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