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EPISODE · Aug 12, 2025 · 42 MIN

Why Self-Storage Outperforms other Real Estate Assets Even in the Worst Market Cycles with Joe Downs

from Real Estate Underground · host Ed Mathews

Joe Downs spent seven years as a financial advisor before 9/11 made him stop and reassess. He moved into real estate. The 2008 mortgage collapse forced a second reinvention. That second pivot landed him in distressed real estate, which eventually landed him in self-storage. Today his firm, Bellrose Asset Management, has acquired 20 storage facilities, mostly with institutional capital. Storage is not multifamily. Joe is direct about it: you cannot outplay Extra Space and CubeSmart in primary markets. So Bellrose does not try. The whole strategy lives in secondary and tertiary markets where the REITs do not bother to operate. What landed in this conversation: What 2023-24 actually was for storage. The first ever stagnant transaction cycle in the asset class since data started getting properly tracked around 2000. Storage does not care about real estate values. Storage cares about transactions: people moving, downsizing, divorcing, displaced. When real estate transactions dry up, storage occupancy and rates fall. That happened for the first time in modern storage history coming off the COVID peak. Bellrose still came through with 16 of 20 facilities fine and only one true loser. Why secondary and tertiary markets are the moat. The institutional REITs do not chase smaller MSAs. That gives a disciplined operator room to underwrite at 65 percent LTV, do two seller-financed deals at 75 LTV with stripped-out covenants, and out-operate the local mom-and-pop competition. Bellrose's value-add is invisible from the road: smoother gravel, better lighting, cameras, a fence here, a sign there. The real lift is the management. Mobile rentals, auto-pay, software-driven marketing, embedded insurance, all standing up in about a week after a takeover. The storage cycle math. Storage's historical returns sit around 15 to 17 percent versus multifamily at 12 to 13. The peak return advantage matters. The deeper structural advantage is that storage's lows are much shallower than the lows in multifamily, retail, or office. Through the worst downturn the asset class has ever seen, storage was still the best-performing commercial real estate category. What Pro Storage is. Joe and partners are also building Pro Storage, the B2B storage product. Unit sizes 500 to 1,000 square feet (versus 50 to 200 in consumer self-storage). Month-to-month versus the three-year leases of flex industrial. Target customer: contractors, caterers storing chairs and glassware, furniture retailers with overflow inventory, businesses being displaced by Amazon and Walmart gobbling up traditional warehouse space. The thesis: same-day delivery now means every consumer product needs to be within an hour of your house, which is forcing a structural re-pricing of small warehouse and flex space everywhere. The mistake Joe owns and learned twice: not knowing what was going on in the kitchen. First time was a bar and restaurant he ran post-college. Trusted the chef, lost a hundred thousand, learned the lesson. Repeated the mistake 20 years later in storage by trusting an outside underwriter and manager. The single facility he is losing on is the direct result. The fix now is regular check-ins, questioning everything, knowing or pretending to know what is going on so the checks and balances actually function. Books shaping Joe's last year: The Road Less Stupid by Keith Cunningham, and Who Not How by Dan Sullivan, which Joe says is really a framework for recognizing your unique ability and finding the who, not a delegation book. Reach Joe at [email protected]. Bellrose also runs the student fulfillment for Scott Meyers' self-storage academy. Real Estate Underground with Ed Mathews. Find us wherever you get your podcasts, at clarkst.com/podcast or elevista.com/podcast Elevista - Speed as a Service™Elevista Connect is the first AI-powered lead conversion system built for real estate investors. 🎧 Subscribe to Real Estate Underground for weekly insights on building wealth through real estate, without sacrificing your sanity.Additional Resources:Clark St Capital -> Passive real estate investments for busy business owners and executivesElevista -> AI SaaS for real estate investorsClark St Academy on YouTube -> Learn how to invest in real estateSocial Media:LinkedIn -> Ed Mathews (President at Clark St and Elevista)Heads up: If you find this week's book intriguing and you buy using our link, we receive a small commission that helps support the show. Thank you!

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