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EPISODE · May 20, 2025 · 31 MIN

Why Some Kids Can Read but Still Can’t Write

from Tier 1 Interventions · host Jonily Zupancic and Cheri Dotterer

In this powerful kickoff to the Math DysConnected Week, occupational therapist and learning interventionist Cheri Dotterer shares the deeply personal and professional journey that led her to become a national voice in the world of dysgraphia and math interventions. With over 30 years of experience in both adult rehab and school-based therapy, Cheri reflects on how seemingly disconnected learning challenges like dysgraphia, dyscalculia, and gifted reading profiles intersect in the classroom—and in life. This episode sets the stage for unpacking practical, Tier 1 classroom strategies that bridge cognitive science and math instruction.Listeners will be introduced to the neuroscience of writing challenges, the identity struggles tied to learning disabilities, and the power of exposure-first teaching strategies that support all learners—whether they can read, write, or neither. A must-listen for teachers, OTs, and intervention specialists seeking to understand the “why” behind common classroom struggles.👉 Subscribe and share this with a fellow educator who needs a boost of inspiration!🔗 Find the complete Quick Dots Purple X training module: https://disabilitylabs.com***************************************************************************BOOKSMaking Mathineers on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Making-Mathineers-Transformational-Experiences-Conceptual-ebook/dp/B08NFCZ64KHandwriting Brain Body DISconnect Digital Version: https://disabilitylabs.com/courses/hwbbd On Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Handwriting-Brain-Body-DisConnect-techniques-ebook/dp/B07N1XB1G7Both books are also available in paperback and hardcover versions. All versions are available wherever books are sold.Math DYSconnected - To be released in 2024.***************************************************************************TIME CODES00:00 – Meet Cheri Dotterer: 30 years as an OT, from rehab to school-based therapy00:33 – How dysgraphia became her passion through personal reflection01:00 – The mismatch: Kids who can read but can't write01:30 – Realizing she shared the same struggles as her students02:10 – Why kids who can’t read still benefit from writing interventions02:45 – The origin of the question: “Why can’t kids write?”03:30 – The turning point moment in her therapy career04:00 – Connecting reading, writing, and math as brain-based patterns04:45 – Introduction to the concept of “Math DysConnected”05:15 – The importance of pattern recognition and exposure before mastery***************************************************************************SUBSCRIBE and LISTEN to the Audio version of the podcast here on YouTube or your favorite podcast app.APPLE: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tier-1-interventions/id1729403599?uo=4SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/72Wmq8ddduGz4eUMK7LVIyAMAZON MUSIC/AUDIBLE: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/89f67d1a-98b5-4592-a53c-8f4acb3d8029This podcast is created from excerpts from the Tier 1 Interventions Workshop. To hear the full math intervention, subscribe to watch the event live monthly on the 3rd Saturday during the school year.***************************************************************************MISSIONMinds on Math, LLC: To provide engaging, high-quality professional development and instructional coaching for teachers to improve student achievement and understanding of mathematics.Dotterer Educational Consulting, a Therapy Services, LLC company: To provide professional development to improve writing skills through efficient lesson planning for regular education classrooms.***************************************************************************FREE RESOURCEShttps://www.eventbrite.com/o/jonily-zupancic-8523599443https://www.eventbrite.com/o/cheri-dotterer-classroom-coach-18603393525***************************************************************************Other ways to connect with Jonily and CheriFB: https://www.facebook.com/groups/tier1interventionsIG: https://www.instagram.com/cheridotterer/     https://www.instagram.com/jonilyzupancic/Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cheridotterer/                  https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonily-zupancic-29aa7a54/X: https://twitter.com/CheriDotterer    https://twitter.com/mindsonmathTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cheridotterer             https://www.tiktok.com/@mindsonmath***************************************************************************QUESTIONWhat is your biggest struggle in your classroom right now? Include grade level and your role. Share in the comments or email us at:[email protected]@mindsonmath.com***************************************************************************HASHTAGS#jonily  #cheri #Tier1Interventions #GeoboardMath #MathStrategies #OTinSchools #MathIntervention #Dyscalculia #NeuroscienceInEducation

In this powerful kickoff to the Math DysConnected Week, occupational therapist and learning interventionist Cheri Dotterer shares the deeply personal and professional journey that led her to become a national voice in the world of dysgraphia and math interventions. With over 30 years of experience in both adult rehab and school-based therapy, Cheri reflects on how seemingly disconnected learning challenges like dysgraphia, dyscalculia, and gifted reading profiles intersect in the classroom—and in life. This episode sets the stage for unpacking practical, Tier 1 classroom strategies that bridge cognitive science and math instruction.Listeners will be introduced to the neuroscience of writing challenges, the identity struggles tied to learning disabilities, and the power of exposure-first teaching strategies that support all learners—whether they can read, write, or neither. A must-listen for teachers, OTs, and intervention specialists seeking to understand the “why” behind common classroom struggles.👉 Subscribe and share this with a fellow educator who needs a boost of inspiration!🔗 Find the complete Quick Dots Purple X training module: https://disabilitylabs.com***************************************************************************BOOKSMaking Mathineers on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Making-Mathineers-Transformational-Experiences-Conceptual-ebook/dp/B08NFCZ64KHandwriting Brain Body DISconnect Digital Version: https://disabilitylabs.com/courses/hwbbd On Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Handwriting-Brain-Body-DisConnect-techniques-ebook/dp/B07N1XB1G7Both books are also available in paperback and hardcover versions. All versions are available wherever books are sold.Math DYSconnected - To be released in 2024.***************************************************************************TIME CODES00:00 – Meet Cheri Dotterer: 30 years as an OT, from rehab to school-based therapy00:33 – How dysgraphia became her passion through personal reflection01:00 – The mismatch: Kids who can read but can't write01:30 – Realizing she shared the same struggles as her students02:10 – Why kids who can’t read still benefit from writing interventions02:45 – The origin of the question: “Why can’t kids write?”03:30 – The turning point moment in her therapy career04:00 – Connecting reading, writing, and math as brain-based patterns04:45 – Introduction to the concept of “Math DysConnected”05:15 – The importance of pattern recognition and exposure before mastery***************************************************************************SUBSCRIBE and LISTEN to the Audio version of the podcast here on YouTube or your favorite podcast app.APPLE: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tier-1-interventions/id1729403599?uo=4SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/72Wmq8ddduGz4eUMK7LVIyAMAZON MUSIC/AUDIBLE: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/89f67d1a-98b5-4592-a53c-8f4acb3d8029This podcast is created from excerpts from the Tier 1 Interventions Workshop. To hear the full math intervention, subscribe to watch the event live monthly on the 3rd Saturday during the school year.***************************************************************************MISSIONMinds on Math, LLC: To provide engaging, high-quality professional development and instructional coaching for teachers to improve student achievement and understanding of mathematics.Dotterer Educational Consulting, a Therapy Services, LLC company: To provide professional development to improve writing skills through efficient lesson planning for regular education classrooms.***************************************************************************FREE RESOURCEShttps://www.eventbrite.com/o/jonily-zupancic-8523599443https://www.eventbrite.com/o/cheri-dotterer-classroom-coach-18603393525***************************************************************************Other ways to connect with Jonily and CheriFB: https://www.facebook.com/groups/tier1interventionsIG: https://www.instagram.com/cheridotterer/     https://www.instagram.com/jonilyzupancic/Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cheridotterer/                  https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonily-zupancic-29aa7a54/X: https://twitter.com/CheriDotterer    https://twitter.com/mindsonmathTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cheridotterer             https://www.tiktok.com/@mindsonmath***************************************************************************QUESTIONWhat is your biggest struggle in your classroom right now? Include grade level and your role. Share in the comments or email us at:[email protected]@mindsonmath.com***************************************************************************HASHTAGS#jonily  #cheri #Tier1Interventions #GeoboardMath #MathStrategies #OTinSchools #MathIntervention #Dyscalculia #NeuroscienceInEducation

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