Why the best CMOs think like CEOs episode artwork

EPISODE · Jun 15, 2026 · 39 MIN

Why the best CMOs think like CEOs

from Brandformance · host Pranav Piyush

In this episode, Pranav Piyush sits down with Sam Allen, CEO of Iterable and former Chief Pipeline Officer at Salesforce, to discuss the evolving role of marketing leadership.They explore:Why CMOs often struggle in boardroomsThe tension between short-term pipeline and long-term brand buildingWhat CEOs actually expect from marketing leadersHow the best CEO-CMO relationships workWhy marketing leaders must think like general managersHow AI is changing hiring, org design, and leadershipWhy every company needs to build an AI-native cultureIf you're a CMO, VP Marketing, founder, CEO, or growth leader, this conversation offers a rare executive-level perspective on leadership, marketing strategy, and the future of work.

In this episode, Pranav Piyush sits down with Sam Allen, CEO of Iterable and former Chief Pipeline Officer at Salesforce, to discuss the evolving role of marketing leadership. They explore: Why CMOs often struggle in boardrooms The tension between short-term pipeline and long-term brand building What CEOs actually expect from marketing leaders How the best CEO-CMO relationships work Why marketing leaders must think like general managers How AI is changing hiring, org design, and leadership W...

NOW PLAYING

Why the best CMOs think like CEOs

0:00 39:57

No transcript for this episode yet

We transcribe on demand. Request one and we'll notify you when it's ready — usually under 10 minutes.

O Experimento com Guta Tolmasquim e Gabriel Mineiro O Experimento Branding e Growth têm uma certa rivalidade histórica. Cada um tende a trabalhar de forma isolada no marketing, disputar espaço, importância e orçamento. Para acabar com essa "tensão", Guta Tolmasquim - Fundadora do Purple Metrics - e Gabriel Costa (Mineiro) - Fundador do Merlin e Growth Leaders Academy - ícones de Branding e Growth respectivamente, se uniram para lançar O Experimento, o podcast que pretende fazer as pazes entre as duas áreas!O programa te convida a desafiar suas verdades absolutas, mostrando que as marcas só tendem a ganhar resultados mais expressivos com "brandformance". #PorTuPyme Brandformance AR "Achatemos la curva de la negatividad". Somos creyentes de la frase «En tiempo de crisis, hay oportunidades». Por ello, traemos un espacio para que emprendedores, Pymes y empresas medianas puedan hacer networking en streaming y dar a conocer su proyecto de forma gratuita. Te invitamos a achatar la curva de la negatividad y a motivar a otros emprendedores como nosotros. Do Change Marketing Now Matthias Riedl Welcome to Do Change Marketing Now – the podcast for marketers, founders, and brand builders who are tired of the same old playbook. Hosted by Matthias Riedl, CEO of DCMN and pioneer of Brandformance Marketing, this show is your backstage pass to bold strategies and smart leadership insights that actually move the needle.Matthias has helped over 400 digital brands scale with a unique mix of performance and brand thinking. Whether you’re building awareness, expanding internationally, or trying to break through a saturated market. He’s been there, done that, and is ready to share what works now.Each monthly episode delivers punchy perspectives and honest takes on modern marketing – from cutting through the noise to making people actually care about your brand.What to Expect:Monthly Drops: One high-impact episode per month, perfect for your commute, coffee break, or strategy reset.Brandformance-First: Deep dives into combining brand and performance for sustainable growth.Expert Inte

Frequently Asked Questions

How long is this episode of Brandformance?

This episode is 39 minutes long.

When was this Brandformance episode published?

This episode was published on June 15, 2026.

What is this episode about?

In this episode, Pranav Piyush sits down with Sam Allen, CEO of Iterable and former Chief Pipeline Officer at Salesforce, to discuss the evolving role of marketing leadership.They explore:Why CMOs often struggle in boardroomsThe tension between...

Can I download this Brandformance episode?

Yes, you can download this episode by clicking the download button on the episode player, or subscribe to the podcast in your preferred podcast app for automatic downloads.
URL copied to clipboard!