Why the Church Needs Leaders, Not Influencers

Welcome to Conversations—a podcast where I share real talks about faith, leadership, and life in the church. As a Gen Z pastor, I’ve walked through the tension between influence and leadership, and I believe the Church is called to raise up leaders who leave a legacy, not just influencers who chase followers. Each episode, I dig into topics like: The difference between influencers and leaders How to cultivate people instead of curating images What it means to lead from the trenches, not just the platform Building leaders who multiply instead of fading with trends My goal is simple: to encourage you, challenge you, and help you step into leadership that transforms people and communities for the long haul. If you’re passionate about Christian leadership, discipleship, and making an impact that lasts, you’ll find these conversations both practical and inspiring. 📲 Connect with me for more leadership & faith-driven insights: Instagram → @joshnandrew TikTok → @joshnandrew Website → https://joshandrew.org 👉 Subscribe and join me on the journey of becoming not just an influencer, but a true leader.