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EPISODE · Aug 25, 2025 · 9 MIN

Why the End Goal Is Not Movements

from Movements in America Substack Audio · host Rodger Guigou Shull

Most people have never heard of Bill and Susan Smith—yet their fingerprints are on more disciple-making movements than anyone else in the world. In this episode, I share their story, what I’ve learned from them, and a surprising realization: the goal has never been movements. It’s always been lost people finding Jesus.Learn more about how God is multiplying disciples and churches in America from my book Movements in America (find the book HERE) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit movementsinamerica.substack.com

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