Why the ‘Future of Late-Night’ Is Ignoring Trump

Viral internet star Julian Shapiro-Barnum joins Obsessed to discuss his groundbreaking YouTube late-night series Outside Tonight, why traditional late night is ready for a reinvention, and how the hit show Recess Therapy changed his life. Julian opens up about avoiding the Trump-centric late-night formula, what interviewing precocious kids has taught him, and the inspiration behind his new book, How to Grow Up Without Becoming a Grown Up. Plus, he shares behind-the-scenes stories about Celebrity Substitute, working with stars like Lea Michele, Jonathan Groff, Millie Bobby Brown, and Will Ferrell, and reveals which celebrity guests left the biggest impression. Follow Kevin Fallon on Instagram ⁠⁠@kpfallon⁠⁠ Follow Matt Wilstein on Instagram ⁠⁠@mattjwilstein⁠⁠ Follow Obsessed on Instagram ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@beastobsessed⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices