Why the "She'll be right" attitude doesn't cut it anymore

'She'll be right' - is a classic kiwi idiom, however a new book says that kind of traditional, laid back optimism is no longer adequate to the challenges facing New Zealand. Facing Up to Our Future: Challenges and Choices for New Zealand brings together 21 of the country's leading thinkers. It looks at many of the big challenges facing our country and sets out practical ways of dealing with them. "Facing Up to Our Future" has just been published and is now available at helenclark.foundation. It's been published by the Helen Clark Foundation. The foundation's patron, former Prime Minister the Right Honourable Helen Clark joins Jesse.