EPISODE · Jul 13, 2025 · 59 MIN
Why tokens don't work (except for Bitcoin)
from The Mining Pod | Blockspace Media · host Blockspace Media
FILL OUT THE SURVEY BY CLICKING HERE:https://forms.gle/DFpR9MyhWo1NQ8T39 Gwart joins us to talk about the collapse of crypto's "public goods" era and why the revenue meta is taking over. We dive deep into the fat protocol thesis, why DAOs failed, the difference between Bitcoin and crypto, and how builders are finally focusing on sustainable businesses instead of token hacking. Subscribe to the newsletter! https://newsletter.blockspacemedia.com **NOTES:** • Pump.fun crossed hundreds of millions in revenue • Fat protocol thesis originated 2016-2017 • iPhone example: $1,000 vs theoretical $10,000 • Uniswap has fee switch but hasn't turned it on • Thread guy has 5% Bitcoin portfolio allocation • Bitcoin could 10x in next five years Timestamps: 00:00 Start 01:59 Bitcoin vs Crypto 06:08 What does Gwart "believe" in? 08:33 Revenue Meta & Fat Protocol Thesis 13:36 Interpreting the Fat Protocol Thesis 19:25 Analogies to Linux, etc 27:18 Is the DAO dead? 31:27 Devs 37:35 Creators of the Revenue delusion 40:46 Are stonks the new tokens? 45:01 Solana maxi 50:22 Real World Assets ;P 53:10 Minting new BTC maxis - 👋Bitcoin Season 2 is produced Blockspace Media, Bitcoin’s first B2B publication in Bitcoin. Follow us on Twitter and check out our newsletter for the best information in Bitcoin mining, Ordinals and tech! Enjoy the show? Check out our website and newsletter by clicking here. Questions or want to sponsor? [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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FILL OUT THE SURVEY BY CLICKING HERE:https://forms.gle/DFpR9MyhWo1NQ8T39 Gwart joins us to talk about the collapse of crypto's "public goods" era and why the revenue meta is taking over. We dive deep into the fat protocol thesis, why DAOs failed, the difference between Bitcoin and crypto, and how builders are finally focusing on sustainable businesses instead of token hacking. Subscribe to the newsletter! https://newsletter.blockspacemedia.com **NOTES:** • Pump.fun crossed hundreds of millions in revenue • Fat protocol thesis originated 2016-2017 • iPhone example: $1,000 vs theoretical $10,000 • Uniswap has fee switch but hasn't turned it on • Thread guy has 5% Bitcoin portfolio allocation • Bitcoin could 10x in next five years Timestamps: 00:00 Start 01:59 Bitcoin vs Crypto 06:08 What does Gwart "believe" in? 08:33 Revenue Meta & Fat Protocol Thesis 13:36 Interpreting the Fat Protocol Thesis 19:25 Analogies to Linux, etc 27:18 Is the DAO dead? 31:27 Devs 37:35 Creators of the Revenue delusion 40:46 Are stonks the new tokens? 45:01 Solana maxi 50:22 Real World Assets ;P 53:10 Minting new BTC maxis - 👋Bitcoin Season 2 is produced Blockspace Media, Bitcoin’s first B2B publication in Bitcoin. Follow us on Twitter and check out our newsletter for the best information in Bitcoin mining, Ordinals and tech! Enjoy the show? Check out our website and newsletter by clicking here. Questions or want to sponsor? [email protected] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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