Why Trying To Change The World Can Break You | Bonnie Chiu & Tara Sabre Collier

Why do so many people trying to create positive change end up exhausted?And why do so many workplaces and “inclusive” spaces still make people feel unseen, unsupported, or forced to hide parts of themselves?In this episode of Catch The Upswing, Jessica Espinoza speaks with Bonnie Chiu and Tara Sabre Collier about burnout, invisible labor, identity, caregiving, ambition, and the emotional cost of trying to change broken systems while still protecting your own humanity.Together, they explore leadership, parenthood, capitalism, belonging, impact investing, language, power, and what it really means to build a more inclusive world.Bonnie Chiu is the founder and CEO of TSIC, a global social impact advisory firm focused on diversity, inclusion, and systems change in finance and entrepreneurship.Tara Sabre Collier is an impact investor, entrepreneur, and advisor working across inclusive finance, economic development, and emerging markets.This is a conversation about exhaustion, purpose, identity, modern work, and the tension between caring deeply about the world… without losing yourself in the process.🎙️ In this episode, we explore:Why so many purpose-driven people feel emotionally exhaustedThe invisible labor of caregiving, parenthood, and emotional responsibilityWhether people can truly bring their “full selves” to workWhy some “inclusive” spaces still exclude people in practiceHow capitalism shapes burnout, mental health, and belongingWhy impact investing can still reproduce inequalityHow language shapes power, identity, and inclusionThe emotional cost of trying to “do it all”Whether meaningful systems change is actually possiblePractices that help people stay grounded while doing difficult work🔗 Check out Bonnie Chiu’s work:TSIC: https://tsic.global/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bonniesychiu/ 🔗 Check out Tara Sabre Collier’s work:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tarasabre/ 🔗 Additional resources:2X Global: https://www.2xglobal.org/Pathway Fund: https://pathwayfund.co.uk/ ⏱️ Chapters:00:00 Trailer00:55 Meet Bonnie Chiu & Tara Sabre Collier01:18 “Which Parts Of Your Reality Are We Not Making Space To See?”02:21 The Invisible Labor Of Caregiving04:59 Can We Really Bring Our Full Selves To Work?06:08 Faith, Identity & The Parts Of Ourselves We Hide09:09 When “Inclusive” Spaces Don’t Feel Inclusive11:04 Why Capitalism Wasn’t Built For Mental Health13:03 How Loss Shaped Tara’s Path Into Impact Investing16:36 How Bonnie Found Purpose Through Entrepreneurship24:05 The Inclusion Conference That Rejected A Mother & Baby27:27 Why Risk Stops Real Inclusion31:27 Are We Thinking About Development All Wrong?35:31 How Language Shapes Power & Belonging40:39 Why “Global Majority” Matters44:03 The Hidden Power Of Words46:36 Why So Many Purpose-Driven People Feel Exhausted49:18 “You’re Confronting Capitalism & Patriarchy”50:29 Change The System — Or Build Something New?55:07 The Hidden Cost Of Trying To Do It All57:21 How To Avoid Burnout While Still Caring Deeply59:13 Protecting Your Mind In An Overwhelming World01:01:08 What Keeps Us Grounded Through Difficult Times01:02:14 Final Reflections + Hope, Community & Recharge📺 Watch more episodes:Catch The Upswing is a long-form video podcast about how people build meaningful lives, lead through uncertainty, and shape the future in a changing world.Subscribe for conversations with global leaders, entrepreneurs, creators, investors, and extraordinary people navigating ambition, resilience, technology, purpose, and what it means to be human.🔗 Follow & connect:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CatchTheUpswingInstagram: https://instagram.com/CatchTheUpswingTikTok: https://tiktok.com/@catchtheupswing#Leadership #Burnout #MentalHealth #Entrepreneurship #ImpactInvesting #SystemsChange #PurposeDriven #WomenInBusiness #Capitalism #CatchTheUpswing