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EPISODE · Jun 19, 2025 · 47 MIN

Why Working Harder Won’t Grow Your Law Firm

from The Managing Partners Podcast: Law Firm Business Podcast · host Kevin Daisey & Array

In this episode, Kevin Daisey talks with Vanessa Shaw, founder of the Business Growth Academy and host of the “Get Rich Without Being a Bitch” podcast. Vanessa shares how women law firm owners are breaking free from burnout and scaling smarter not harder. Hear the story of a million-dollar firm owner who reclaimed her time, fired a toxic employee, dropped 50 pounds, and increased revenue by $200K all by ditching the hustle and embracing a CEO mindset. Today's episode is sponsored by Answering Legal. Click here to get started with your 400 minute free trial! Chapters (00:00:00) - Management Partners: How to Scale(00:00:35) - Burnout Letter(00:06:18) - How to Get Rich Without Being a Basist(00:06:58) - Coaching small business owners through law(00:12:18) - The transition from law to coaching in the US(00:16:44) - If You Had One Extra Hour Every Day, How Would You Spend(00:18:49) - Boring People Talk About Coffee(00:20:04) - What Would You Write On A Business Sign?(00:21:01) - Working Harder Doesn't Lead to More Profit(00:24:51) - Work Harder(00:30:09) - Hiring Women at Law(00:35:20) - Join a Mastermind Group(00:41:08) - Why I'm Starting My Own Group(00:42:48) - The Legal Collective(00:46:57) - A Little Goodbye To Vanessa

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In this episode, Kevin Daisey talks with Vanessa Shaw, founder of the Business Growth Academy and host of the “Get Rich Without Being a Bitch” podcast. Vanessa shares how women law firm owners are breaking free from burnout and scaling smarter not harder. Hear the story of a million-dollar firm owner who reclaimed her time, fired a toxic employee, dropped 50 pounds, and increased revenue by $200K all by ditching the hustle and embracing a CEO mindset. Today's episode is sponsored by Answering Legal. Click here to get started with your 400 minute free trial!

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