EPISODE · Jul 24, 2026 · 33 MIN
Why Workplace Wellness Fails and How Small Habits Actually Change Lives with Clark Lagemann
from At Work, Under Pressure · host Jessi Beyer
CONNECT WITH JESSI ON LINKEDIN >>> HERE!Why do so many workplace wellness programs fail?Because most of them ask people to change too much, too fast, for reasons that do not actually matter to them.In this episode of At Work, Under Pressure, Jessi Beyer sits down with Clark Lagemann of Avidon Health to talk about workplace wellness, employee engagement, behavior change, motivational interviewing, habit formation, mental health, AI, and why pizza parties are not a wellness strategy.Avidon Health helps employers build wellness programs that meet employees where they are. Rather than assuming one app, one challenge, or one big launch will change everyone’s life, Clark explains why sustainable change usually starts with small, realistic actions that build confidence over time.In this episode, Jessi and Clark discuss:Why there is no silver bullet for workplace wellnessHow Avidon Health grew out of a physician practice focused on behavior change beyond medicationWhy the term “non-compliance” misses the bigger issueHow motivational interviewing helps people connect change to what actually matters to themWhy readiness for change is essential in wellness engagementHow small wins create momentum, confidence, and dopamine-driven reinforcementWhy employers should stop expecting dramatic overnight lifestyle changesWhat workplace wellness has to do with recruitment, retention, productivity, and profitabilityHow COVID accelerated expectations around whole-person support at workWhy AI can be a powerful thought partner but not a replacement for human accountabilityWhy mental health remains harder to see, discuss, and support than physical healthWhat leaders should ask themselves if they do not believe workplace mental health mattersThis episode is for HR leaders, benefits professionals, executives, founders, wellness leaders, managers, and anyone tired of workplace wellness programs that look good on paper but do not change behavior.Because wellness is not about launching the flashiest program.It is about helping people build habits they can actually sustain.CONNECT WITH CLARKLinkedInAvidon Health
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