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EPISODE · Nov 5, 2025 · 40 MIN

Why You Can't Heal Anxious Attachment Alone (And What to Do Instead) w/ Jessica Baum, Type 4

from Enneagram and Marriage · host Christa Hardin, MA

What was wounded in relationship needs to heal in relationship. In this powerful conversation, Christa sits down with licensed psychotherapist and attachment expert Jessica Baum, author of the new book "Safe: An Attachment-Informed Guide to Building Secure Relationships," to explore why anxious attachment can't be healed in isolationm and what to do instead. Jessica reveals how implicit memories from childhood live in our bodies and change our felt sense in the world. Maybe a parent, teacher, or friend made you feel a certain way, and your body created protective spaces to keep you safe. Now, when your partner echoes that old wound, your nervous system reacts before your mind can catch up. Learn how healing happens through empathy, co-regulation, and anchoring relationships with safe people who can help you hold what you've been carrying alone. Discover what co-regulation actually looks like, why the earlier the wound the more relational support you need, and how to create secure attachment in your marriage even if you didn't have it growing up. Jessica's book includes exercises that help you regulate as you read, making it a healing companion for anyone ready to move from anxious patterns to secure connection. You can't do this work alone, and you don't have to. Get the book here! https://www.amazon.com/Safe-Attachment-Informed-Building-Secure-Relationships/dp/0593850815 Get the somatic meditation and other gifts along with your purchase! https://jessicabaumlmhc.com/interview More show links: ⁠Use this brief form to tell us more of what you'd like to hear and see on the pod in our E + M Pod survey!⁠ https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSc3QManM8zj6ODWSOAM3BdDLoLh-A4AzUO3zXu5xGq6bjUgsg/viewform?usp=header Find more about your type, the pod, freebies, and SO much more at our website right here! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.EnneagramandMarriage.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Leave Christa a podcast question anonymously by sending an MP4 recording to [email protected]. Love what you're learning on E + M? Make sure you leave us a podcast review so others can find us, too⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What was wounded in relationship needs to heal in relationship. In this powerful conversation, Christa sits down with licensed psychotherapist and attachment expert Jessica Baum, author of the new book "Safe: An Attachment-Informed Guide to Building Secure Relationships," to explore why anxious attachment can't be healed in isolationm and what to do instead. Jessica reveals how implicit memories from childhood live in our bodies and change our felt sense in the world. Maybe a parent, teacher, or friend made you feel a certain way, and your body created protective spaces to keep you safe. Now, when your partner echoes that old wound, your nervous system reacts before your mind can catch up. Learn how healing happens through empathy, co-regulation, and anchoring relationships with safe people who can help you hold what you've been carrying alone. Discover what co-regulation actually looks like, why the earlier the wound the more relational support you need, and how to create secure attachment in your marriage even if you didn't have it growing up. Jessica's book includes exercises that help you regulate as you read, making it a healing companion for anyone ready to move from anxious patterns to secure connection. You can't do this work alone, and you don't have to. Get the book here! https://www.amazon.com/Safe-Attachment-Informed-Building-Secure-Relationships/dp/0593850815 Get the somatic meditation and other gifts along with your purchase! https://jessicabaumlmhc.com/interview More show links: ⁠Use this brief form to tell us more of what you'd like to hear and see on the pod in our E + M Pod survey!⁠ https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSc3QManM8zj6ODWSOAM3BdDLoLh-A4AzUO3zXu5xGq6bjUgsg/viewform?usp=header Find more about your type, the pod, freebies, and SO much more at our website right here! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.EnneagramandMarriage.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Leave Christa a podcast question anonymously by sending an MP4 recording to [email protected]. Love what you're learning on E + M? Make sure you leave us a podcast review so others can find us, too⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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