Why your most heroic act might be in a department meeting episode artwork

EPISODE · Jul 15, 2025 · 19 MIN

Why your most heroic act might be in a department meeting

from The Podcast by KevinMD

Cardiologist Lauren Weber and critical care physician Jess Bunin, co-founders of All Levels Leadership, discuss their article, "Not all heroes wear capes: Sometimes they just speak up in meetings." They reframe medical heroism, arguing that the most courageous acts often happen not in a code blue, but in a conference room. Lauren and Jess define this as moral courage: the quiet bravery to question a dismissive attending, flag an unsafe policy, or challenge the status quo, even within the rigid hierarchy of medicine. Drawing on the work of thinkers like Ira Chaleff, they explore the role of the "courageous follower" and assert that true professionalism includes speaking up, not staying silent. The conversation makes the case that these small, uncomfortable acts of integrity create a "courageous contagion," empowering colleagues and building safer systems one conversation at a time, and that these everyday heroes deserve our full support and solidarity. Careers by KevinMD is your gateway to health care success. We connect you with real-time, exclusive resources like job boards, news updates, and salary insights, all tailored for health care professionals. With expertise in uniting top talent and leading employers across the nation's largest health care hiring network, we're your partner in shaping health care's future. Fulfill your health care journey at KevinMD.com/careers. VISIT SPONSOR → https://kevinmd.com/careers Discovering disability insurance? Pattern understands your concerns. Over 20,000 doctors trust us for straightforward, affordable coverage. We handle everything from quotes to paperwork. Say goodbye to insurance stress – visit Pattern today at KevinMD.com/pattern. VISIT SPONSOR → https://kevinmd.com/pattern SUBSCRIBE TO THE PODCAST → https://www.kevinmd.com/podcast RECOMMENDED BY KEVINMD → https://www.kevinmd.com/recommended

NOW PLAYING

Why your most heroic act might be in a department meeting

0:00 19:46

No transcript for this episode yet

We transcribe on demand. Request one and we'll notify you when it's ready — usually under 10 minutes.

Frequently Asked Questions

How long is this episode of The Podcast by KevinMD?

This episode is 19 minutes long.

When was this The Podcast by KevinMD episode published?

This episode was published on July 15, 2025.

What is this episode about?

Cardiologist Lauren Weber and critical care physician Jess Bunin, co-founders of All Levels Leadership, discuss their article, "Not all heroes wear capes: Sometimes they just speak up in meetings." They reframe medical heroism, arguing that the most...

Can I download this The Podcast by KevinMD episode?

Yes, you can download this episode by clicking the download button on the episode player, or subscribe to the podcast in your preferred podcast app for automatic downloads.
URL copied to clipboard!